Correct steering box

[Christian B]

I have a 69 440 charger with an Automatic Transmission. The steering box needs to be replaced but the garage said they can't see what make or model the existing one is.
Does anyone know what the correct box would be for my car?

 

[RemCharger]

There was only 1 Chrysler p/s box used.

 

[ckessel]

This one. Used from early 60's all the way till they stopped doing rear wheel drive cars. Also used in the B-Vans to the early 90's. If you're going for a stocker, buy from Firm Feel, Redhead or Steer and Gear. They truly REBUILD the units. Unlike parts stores and some other sources which use suppliers that will only replace a seal if they can get away with it. The kicker is the amount of useable cores left for these companies to work with. The internal main gear units aren't reproduced, so they have to find the best of their core selection on those plus find the best housing. Many people talk about having a dead spot in the box when going straight. Thats worn gear teeth. If you want a new box, Lares[ which I just put in my 67 wagon] or Borgeson from Peter at BAC[ have that for my 65, but have not used it yet]. Many people love the Borgeson, but it is more than the Lares. Borgeson is smaller than stock, or Lares, and may fit better in your car with less hassle.

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[gtx6970]

Measure the pitman shaft out the bottom

1972 or 1973 said shaft is larger than the earlier ones

Otherwise the boxes are 100% interchangable

 

[Christian B]

There is an existing one on my car that the garage thats working on it can't identify.
They said they would have to order a new box which may not be correct and would work out just over $1000 shipped to the u.k

 

[ckessel]

Any pictures of the unit in question?

 

[Christian B]

Any pictures of the unit in question?

No its in the Garage being worked on at the moment. I thought a new one would just bolt up to what is now there but apparently it has to be the correct type to fit up to the existing parts

 

[AR67GTX]

What’s wrong with it? If it’s just leaking it can be resealed and seals would be a lot less in shipping.

 

[Unkle Krusty]

My Dodge is a 77 van. It wandered all about. I discovered this was a common problem with the camper vans. An Irish guy with a steering box company said he was familiar with the problem and could fix it. I did not know about new replacement boxes at tne time, so I paid him $450 and he fixed it.
But, If I had known about Borgeson and others, I think I would have bought a new unit.
I adjust my box at the beginning of each year via the alan screw.

 

[Christian B]

What’s wrong with it? If it’s just leaking it can be resealed and seals would be a lot less in shipping.

They said they don't know which model it is to get a seal kit for

 

[Christian B]

Any pictures of the unit in question?

They said

we think is this number on the box is G2267262 as its hard to make out

 

[Christian B]

Can you get a rebuild kit for these or is it better to just buy a new box

 

[Billccm]

You can have Steer N Gear rebuild this box and your pitman arm at the same time. Their quality has been inconsistent lately. Money is better spent on a Borgenson upgrade.

Search for the Borgenson threads. @Kern Dog is a great resource on these, also.

 

[gtx6970]

There is a date code on the side of the box thats faces the engine
Might be tough to get a picture of on a car with headers though
But I think you can see it with good lighting from below

 

[Some Car Guy]

I would just order a seal kit from rock auto or one of those rebuilders mentioned and trust it will work.

 

[khryslerkid]

Not that simple of a rebuild to someone not familiar with them. Especially a shop that doesn't know what box to order.

This kit is for '62-'72
Sunsong 8401023 Sunsong Steering Gear Rebuild Kits | Summit Racing
I believe Rock Auto carries this one also. Other manufacturers like Elderman can be twice as much.

 

[AR67GTX]

I would guess there are 2 seal kits available - one for the early (small pinion shaft) and one for the later (large pinion shaft). A 69 Charger should have the larger one.

 

[ckessel]

They said View attachment 1939261View attachment 1939262 we think is this number on the box is G2267262 as its hard to make out

Thats the oe box. Considering your logistics and shop issues, I would shoot for the Borgeson box from BAC. Hit Peter up. Sending something that heavy across the pond more than once is not a good idea.

 

[khryslerkid]

I would guess there are 2 seal kits available - one for the early (small pinion shaft) and one for the later (large pinion shaft). A 69 Charger should have the larger one.

1969 would be the smaller 1-1/8". 1973 was the year the 1-1/4" came out on most B bodies.

how to identify ps steering gear box?

 

[Christian B]

Thats the oe box. Considering your logistics and shop issues, I would shoot for the Borgeson box from BAC. Hit Peter up. Sending something that heavy across the pond more than once is not a good idea.

Thanks for your reply..Will the Borgeson box be compatible with the rest of the parts?
Have you got a link for correct box and website