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Five Mopars Moving Up—and Down—in the Market

This looks as if the late GenX and early Millennial generations are having more influence. Would certainty explain the uptick interest of early tuner cars like Supra and Mitsubishi.

My son and I own a '03 Ford Mustang Cobra. With the first year of the little 4.6l V-8 supercharged DOHC engine. Nicknamed the "Terminator." That with a Ford smaller supercharged pully and chip upgrade? 500+ HP was doable while maintaining Fords warranty at the time. My son is (Millennial) and is all in on this car. I'm more in the "It's a cute package" camp. But proof in the pudding? Over past 5 years my '69 GTX value has gone up about 20%. That '03 Cobra? Has more than doubled.

It has been posted elsewhere here in B-bodies. There is a change in the wind.
 
...My son and I own a '03 Ford Mustang Cobra. With the first year of the little 4.6l V-8 supercharged DOHC engine. ...
That '03-'04 Cobra, I wouldn't mind one of those in my garage one day...
 
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That '03-'04 Cobra, I wouldn't mine one of those in my garage one day...
Like I mentioned. It's a cute car and package. With the last Mustang stance before they started trying to make every other look like classic Mustangs. It's pretty quick too. It pulled away from my near stock GTX 440 for the first 1/8 mi. The GTX DID NOT LIKE THAT ONE BIT! And started real it in at the end a little bit. But would have needed 1/2 mile+ of road.
 
We looked at a few camper van rentals today. Taller than our Tukvan, so the bed is raised up high. No toilet as standard equipment. There were also raised beds up high on pickup trucks. This is a problem for the older folks, negotiating a ladder at early morning hours, and getting wet outside if it is raining.
So the Dodge is still popular for us. An easy to manage bed, and indoor plumbing, with a decent size holding tank.
Plus we get to keep about $200,000, often a lot more.
 
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Looking at a 2021 Challenger GT AWD for my daily. (I do live in MN. AWD is a blessing.) But Dodge doesn't make a V8 with AWD (At least in the Challenger package) so looking at that Pentstar V6. I don't need stupid fast. I have that already in a classic vehicles. My 2014 Cadillac AWD XTS Vsport is great. But Cadillacs? Once they start failing. WAY too expensive to justify.

So anyone have thoughts and experience with the Dodge 3.6l V6 and/or AWD packages? Feel free to share.
 
1974-1980 Dodge Ramcharger/Plymouth Trail Duster
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1965-1970 Plymouth Satellite
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1960 Dodge Matador
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1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbird
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1996-2002 Dodge Viper
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Like I mentioned. It's a cute car and package. With the last Mustang stance before they started trying to make every other look like classic Mustangs. It's pretty quick too. It pulled away from my near stock GTX 440 for the first 1/8 mi. The GTX DID NOT LIKE THAT ONE BIT! And started real it in at the end a little bit. But would have needed 1/2 mile+ of road.
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What's going on with this monster?
 
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What's going on with this monster?
I got a heartbeat and running on exterior fuel cell. I'm still debating drive train. As well as transmission. I currently have a JW Ultrabell glide that I might just stay with. Just beefup transmission cooling. I'm fading on fantasy of ultra street/strip. But could see some testing this summer.
 
I'd still like to have another Plymouth 74 (to an 80) Trail Duster
400 (or 440 to 1978) 4 speed 4wd
like I had in Alaska, in 84-86, was a nice rig, very lil' rust
got it cheap too
I did a few mods, lift & 35" Q78s tires 4.56:1 (?) gears, lock out front hubs
& a snowplow & winch (mile Marker hyd.) on the front
for clearing driveways at the apt complex I managed in the winter,
I put a Torker intake & a 600cfm 1460 Holley VS, some nice DC chrome VCs & air-cleaner
with some shorty headers (IIRC) Hedman's, w/2-1/4" duals out the rear & Flowmasters
the minor mods woke it up considerably, great wheeling too

my sister drove it after she wrecked
her new Chrysler Laser on the C-street bridge, twice
second time was
Later while driving it, she had slid on Black Ice hit a VW van & totaled that van...
My Trail Duster just got a lil' damage on the PS fender, by the headlight trim
big steel front bumper did it's job, it was up high enough
to not get much damage
 
I'd still like to have another Plymouth 74 (to an 80) Trail Duster
400 (or 440 to 1978) 4 speed 4wd
like I had in Alaska, in 84-86, was a nice rig, very lil' rust
got it cheap too
I did a few mods, lift & 35" Q78s tires 4.56:1 (?) gears, lock out front hubs
& a snowplow & winch (mile Marker hyd.) on the front
for clearing driveways at the apt complex I managed in the winter,
I put a Torker intake & a 600cfm 1460 Holley VS, some nice DC chrome VCs & air-cleaner
with some shorty headers (IIRC) Hedman's, w/2-1/4" duals out the rear & Flowmasters
the minor mods woke it up considerably, great wheeling too

my sister drove it after she wrecked
her new Chrysler Laser on the C-street bridge, twice
second time was
Later while driving it, she had slid on Black Ice hit a VW van & totaled that van...
My Trail Duster just got a lil' damage on the PS fender, by the headlight trim
big steel front bumper did it's job, it was up high enough
to not get much damage
These are the cars to target. I recommend to younger who ask of a classic Mopar build. B-bodies need a bigger check book. And E-bodies? I would stay away unless you have a big head start.

JMO
 
Looking at a 2021 Challenger GT AWD for my daily. (I do live in MN. AWD is a blessing.) But Dodge doesn't make a V8 with AWD (At least in the Challenger package) so looking at that Pentstar V6. I don't need stupid fast. I have that already in a classic vehicles. My 2014 Cadillac AWD XTS Vsport is great. But Cadillacs? Once they start failing. WAY too expensive to justify.

So anyone have thoughts and experience with the Dodge 3.6l V6 and/or AWD packages? Feel free to share.
I have a 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.6 Pentastar V-6 and 4-wheel drive (which is AWD, most of the time). It replaced a 2015 Durango that also had the V-6, with AWD. I am very happy with the power this thing has; 295 h.p. (more than a 340 in a '69 Swinger). The engine will ring right up to 6500 rpm. before hitting the next gear. With the 8-speed automatic, it finds the right gear for the situation every time. In every day driving, they both averaged about 30 mpg. On a long highway trip, the Durango averaged almost 40 mpg! The only complaint I have is that the vertical oil filter seems to drain back, and the engine fires up dry, sounding like ice in a blender. I traded my Durango in on the Jeep at 100,000 miles. The only mechanical problem I had with it in that time was a leaking seal on the transfer case, covered by warranty. It was still on its original brakes! At 55,000 miles on my GC the only thing that has failed is the Start/Stop function. No loss.
With the lower weight of the Charger, I would think performance would be better in both acceleration and mpg. That 3.6 has enough suds for most kinds of everyday driving. My car before the Durango was a 2005 Magnum R/T with the 5.7 Hemi. It was a fun car, with more than enough power, and fuel mileage was acceptable. But, when it came time to replace it, I specifically looked for a V-6 Durango. I hope this helps with your decision.
 
Time to dump the Chargers Mark.


:poke:

I actually am thinking about putting one of the 68 R/Ts up for sale. The question is which one; the low mileage mostly original red automatic or the bronze 4-speed?
 
I have a 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.6 Pentastar V-6 and 4-wheel drive (which is AWD, most of the time). It replaced a 2015 Durango that also had the V-6, with AWD. I am very happy with the power this thing has; 295 h.p. (more than a 340 in a '69 Swinger). The engine will ring right up to 6500 rpm. before hitting the next gear. With the 8-speed automatic, it finds the right gear for the situation every time. In every day driving, they both averaged about 30 mpg. On a long highway trip, the Durango averaged almost 40 mpg! The only complaint I have is that the vertical oil filter seems to drain back, and the engine fires up dry, sounding like ice in a blender. I traded my Durango in on the Jeep at 100,000 miles. The only mechanical problem I had with it in that time was a leaking seal on the transfer case, covered by warranty. It was still on its original brakes! At 55,000 miles on my GC the only thing that has failed is the Start/Stop function. No loss.
With the lower weight of the Charger, I would think performance would be better in both acceleration and mpg. That 3.6 has enough suds for most kinds of everyday driving. My car before the Durango was a 2005 Magnum R/T with the 5.7 Hemi. It was a fun car, with more than enough power, and fuel mileage was acceptable. But, when it came time to replace it, I specifically looked for a V-6 Durango. I hope this helps with your decision.
Never in a million years will my 2019 V6 AWD Durango GT Plus get 40 mpg. Not down hill, tailwind with full sails. Maybe 28 on a perfect day. In the city, 17. Maybe mines not broke in yet, just turn 24,000 miles or I must be driving it wrong. That's incredible!
 
I actually am thinking about putting one of the 68 R/Ts up for sale. The question is which one; the low mileage mostly original red automatic or the bronze 4-speed?
Money now or down the road, it doesn't matter, if you don't drive them. Pick one and move on. The days coming, either way. I've been involved with you on this.... Money means nothing, you know that....
 
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