Front frame rails ebody bbody 71

[velrob]

Can anyone let me know if the frame rails between 71 ebody and bbody are same

Thanks

 

[72RoadrunnerGTX]

Yes.

 

[velrob]

Thanks for response. What about the side firewall panel where the hinges mount to

These

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/shi-160-41l

 

[SureGrip]

Edit: whoops, should have looked at the part. I thought you meant the inner fenders where the hood hinges go. I want to say that part you listed is the same, but have never seen them listed for both cars. They 'should' be the same (see below) but I think there are small differences. I would think they could be made to work, but I've never compared them side-by-side.

The lower firewall is the same too. The upper cowl panel (base of windshield) is very close, but differs from the e-bodies at the pass side, near the hinge corner.

For the most part, e-body and b-bodies are the exact same from the radiator support back to the rear of the front floor pans, and up to the base of the windshields.

 

[velrob]

Thanks for the reply.

Would the hinges from the charger interfere with the upper cowl? Because I was thinking of swapping that out also if possible.

Would the grills be able to mount onto the upper cowl without modification? The screw in type.

Edit: whoops, should have looked at the part. I thought you meant the inner fenders where the hood hinges go. I want to say that part you listed is the same, but have never seen them listed for both cars. They 'should' be the same (see below) but I think there are small differences. I would think they could be made to work, but I've never compared them side-by-side.

The lower firewall is the same too. The upper cowl panel (base of windshield) is very close, but differs from the e-bodies at the pass side, near the hinge corner.

For the most part, e-body and b-bodies are the exact same from the radiator support back to the rear of the front floor pans, and up to the base of the windshields.

 

[Robliepse]

run away, run away......I used the 70-74 E body Outer and inner cowl side hinge panels from AMD on my 72 GTX. I jokingly said run away because if your that far into the car and chasing rust like I was you might be better to cut and run and find a better car to start with. My long and expensive jorney is getting closer to paint but I wouldnt go that deep into restoration again.

 

[SureGrip]

The inner fenders (side panels where the hood hinges mount) are exactly the same from B to E body, so there will be no issues.

The cowl difference between E and B bodies is shown below:

E-Body:

B-Body:

If you look really closely, just behind the hood hinges on the cowl, you see that it dips down just behind the hinges. On the E-body, that angle goes straight across to the end.

Far as I know, that's the only difference. I don't know if there is a clearance issue with b-body hinges that required this indent or not, but it seems odd to me.

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Rob,

Did the e-body hinge panel work for you without too much issue?

 

[moparmarks]

Also E and 71-3B A/C firewalls are the same. Non-A/C are not. Also 74B firewall is different than 71-3B.
B and E top cowl plates are quite different. The well vent holes are different shape and take different screens.
Rob, I too am interested as to how well the E body hinge jam worked on your B body. Comparing originals I found then to be quite different. The spacing for the hinge bolts to be one thing. Also the size of the panels them selves.

 

[velrob]

I didnt order the firewall side panel thats why I was asking here first

As for the firewall Non A/C it seems to be the same except for where the heater box blower motor and the heater core pipes go through. But I will let you know soon enough how the firewall goes Non A/C. Going to pick it up soon.

I wont be running away from the car if i dont replace the firewall side panels then i'll just patch them. The rust isnt that severe. I have almost everything I need for the vehicle sheet metal wise.

My cowl is fixable but installing a new one would of been easier.

attached is my firewall and challenger non a/c firewall



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