It was those Vikings

[Auggie56]

And no not the sports team Minnesota ones.

 

[66Satellite47]

History is a complicated thing. Vikings in Minnesota before Columbus in New England? Maybe. A Viking is a traveler, looking for what can be had.

 

[#41]

Too bad the native Americans didn't keep a written record of who discovered it first. That would settle it once and for all.

 

[66Satellite47]

Where did "native Americans" come from? Native?

 

[Brandy]

Indigenous is the right word...

 

[fine69]

The Irish are really just descendants of early Norse migrants so…. all white people are traced back to Scandinavia.

 

[ricks_RR]

Too bad the native Americans didn't keep a written record of who discovered it first. That would settle it once and for all.

I THINK THE INDIANS WERE HERE IT DIDNT NEED TO BE DISCOVERED . THEY FOUND IT FIRST

 

[Brandy]

I THINK THE INDIANS WERE HERE IT DIDNT NEED TO BE DISCOVERED . THEY FOUND IT FIRST

Correctly speaking, Columbus took on the job of colonization and trade, conquest and power for his queen. It had zero to do with actual discovery. I tend to think all of the continents were found and known long before the last ice age.

 

[Cojohnso1]

Correctly speaking, Columbus took on the job of colonization and trade, conquest and power for his queen. It had zero to do with actual discovery. I tend to think all of the continents were found and known long before the last ice age.

Records shows Columbus was looking for a trade route to India. The "New World" was not known to Europe. But I believe it was heavily rumored to exist. And these rumors may very well have been stories from Viking expeditions. They were not good at writen records either as history explains.

 

[66Satellite47]

I don't think all the continents were known before the last ice age. Several were and developing their cultures. Agreed Columbus wasn't out to discover, he was out for spices & riches.

 

[Brandy]

The Piri Reis map of 1513 is comprised of many much older maps. One of which, at least one, showed Antarctica in a different location. This must have been drawn before the last ice age as the continent has been in it's present location since at least 11,500BC..
In as much as all other land masses are present and accounted for...ergo...

 

[66Satellite47]

The maps of Piri Reis are still controversial, although it appears many are generally pretty accurate. But my understanding is the last ice age was about 10,000 years ago, not somewhat before 1513. I seriously doubt many explorers out sailing 10,000 years ago.

 

[Auggie56]

Indigenous is the right word...

But were there any other people here? We are finding out through preserved DNA all over the world even across oceans people from different continents have migrated to other continents. Polynesians for one are thought to have migrated from Southern Alaska to Hawaii, Tahiti and New Zealand. The Hawaiians have a verbal record of when and if I remember from where they came from.

American Indian summary
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By The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
Below is the article summary. For the full article, see American Indian.
American Indian, or Native American or Amerindian or indigenous American, Any member of the various aboriginal peoples of the Western Hemisphere, with the exception of the Eskimos (Inuit) and the Aleuts. Though the term “Native American” is today often preferred to “American Indian,” particularly in the U.S., many Native American peoples continue to prefer American Indian (or Indian). In Canada the name First Nation is preferred. The ancestors of the American Indians were nomadic hunters of northeast Asia who migrated over the Bering Strait land bridge into North America probably during the last glacial period (11,500–30,000 years ago). By c. 10,000 bc they had occupied much of North, Central, and South America. See also Ancestral Pueblo (Anasazi) culture; Andean civilization; Clovis complex; Folsom complex; Hohokam culture; Hopewell culture; Mesoamerican civilization; Mississippian culture; Mogollon culture; Northeast Indian; Northwest Coast Indian; Plains Indian; Pueblo Indian; Southeast Indian; Southwest Indian; Woodland culture.

 

[Auggie56]

I THINK THE INDIANS WERE HERE IT DIDNT NEED TO BE DISCOVERED . THEY FOUND IT FIRST

I'm not saying who was here first but it's a possibility there were others here before the Asian migration to North America. Below is an example. In reading on the subject a Canadian tribe Ojibwa are said to be the first here. But there is Indians out there that in spite of what's found and scientifically identified claim all bones discovered are their ancestors and want to claim them for reburial and the US government backs them with laws. Simply said it's a sensitivity issue with them.

https://www.eutimes.net/2018/03/8000-yo-white-european-mummies-and-tombs-discovered-in-america/

 

[Auggie56]

About Vikings in North America

 

[Brandy]

But were there any other people here? We are finding out through preserved DNA all over the world even across oceans people from different continents have migrated to other continents. Polynesians for one are thought to have migrated from Southern Alaska to Hawaii, Tahiti and New Zealand. The Hawaiians have a verbal record of when and if I remember from where they came from.

American Indian summary
Know about the origins of the American Indian


By The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
Below is the article summary. For the full article, see American Indian.
American Indian, or Native American or Amerindian or indigenous American, Any member of the various aboriginal peoples of the Western Hemisphere, with the exception of the Eskimos (Inuit) and the Aleuts. Though the term “Native American” is today often preferred to “American Indian,” particularly in the U.S., many Native American peoples continue to prefer American Indian (or Indian). In Canada the name First Nation is preferred. The ancestors of the American Indians were nomadic hunters of northeast Asia who migrated over the Bering Strait land bridge into North America probably during the last glacial period (11,500–30,000 years ago). By c. 10,000 bc they had occupied much of North, Central, and South America. See also Ancestral Pueblo (Anasazi) culture; Andean civilization; Clovis complex; Folsom complex; Hohokam culture; Hopewell culture; Mesoamerican civilization; Mississippian culture; Mogollon culture; Northeast Indian; Northwest Coast Indian; Plains Indian; Pueblo Indian; Southeast Indian; Southwest Indian; Woodland culture.

So, 30,000 years ago there were people walking out of the Russian mainland to North America. Makes one wonder how many people there were on the Earth then, how many civilizations that have disappeared, what knowledge they possessed and that has been lost.

 

[Auggie56]

Another claim we all came from one ancestor in Africa. Not being knowledgeable on all things anthropology wise I strongly disagree because even though all man kind share the same DNA, there are to many differing human traits to have all come from one ancestor. Now call me what you will but with the perceived real or not thoughts about African society's why is it some are still just North of the stone age?

 

[RemCharger]

Interesting subjects..
The vikings were the first euros to America, that we know for sure. 1000 AD.
The bog people were in fact of Asian, or indigenous descent.
The oldest known footprints were in North America, just found recently.
What I wonder is, could they have sailed straight over the pacific, before the bering land bridge people?

 

[Brandy]

I read a short treatise on prehistoric peoples and their timelines. These would be humans prior to the advent of "recorded" history, around 3500 BC. It's worth looking up and skimming through if for no other reason than to familiarize yourselves with the origins of man as related to the eras of development pre history.