RR 4 speed R/R

1968 -1970 Mopars

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    Funship32 Well-Known Member

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    Hi Gang,

    I have a cursory question for those of you who roam this site about the R/R and clutch replacement of a '69 RR. I know in princple the concept behind such: remove tranny, replace clutch, replace tranny, go, DUH!

    However I'm on the fence about taking it in and having it done or just doing it myself!
    And as such I wanted to ask someone who may have done such in the past how hard it is to do it! Just so you know, I'm handy with a wrench, have replace engines and auto trans in cars the past but have never done a clutch while the engine was in the car.

    So I thought I'd put out a APB and see who's done what, what sucess those of you had, failures, etc.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Works best if you have a lift and a tranny jack. Make sure you remove the flywheel and have it surfaced while you have the clutch out and make sure the clutch disk is lined up using the tool that comes with most kits and the rest goes pretty easy but it's a fairly good sized job.
     
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      Thanks for the follow up. Know about the flywheel resurfacing and the clutch alignment tool. Was afraid you were going to say the rest since I've neither.
       
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      It helps to have an extra set of hands, Too.....
       
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        When you're ready to re-install the transmission, cut the heads off a couple of 8" long bolts and thread them into the top two holes on the bellhousing face to act as guides for the transmission 'ears'. This will help you align the transmission and make sure you don't bend the center of the clutch disc. Oh yeah, that sucker is heavy! Rent a transmission jack. Will make it a lot easier, unless you're young and strong...lol
         
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          what the others have said. I've done this, by myself, without a tranny jack. now that I'm older, and hopefully wiser, I wouldn't do another one like that. the 833 is heavey by yourself on your back.
           
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            I was young and strong once even then I would attest to that. Even when young and strong it is super hard to have two guys on their sides trying to coordinate and move the sucker up and in straight and level, not an angle from which you can leverage your strength easily. Best if you are young and strong to be on your back, with the tranny on your chest and lift it straight up and use your knees to grab and help balance the tailshaft as you guide it in. Be prepared to stop and put the t/o bearing back on the clutch fork a couple times ... i'm leaving out some details here as it's been a few years. I did that like 4 damn times one night in an all nighter
             
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            • Funship32

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              A thanks to all of you for your input. I really appreciate it.
               
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                More clutch stuff..

                The only thing that was not fun, was having the X sit on a lift for 3 days..

                Don't freak over the process. Just follow my "What not to do"...

                Prefit parts, make sure you have all the tools in particular, your clutch alignment tool. You can't buy one off the shelf, so be sure to tell your parts store to get one for you, specific to the 18 or 23 spline input shaft.

                What has been said about the trans jack and additional hands, strong hands, is a definite. That gearbox weighs about 140lbs.

                Like on mine, pay attention to the shift fork clip on the backside. It should clip in to the bracket in the bellhousing fairly easy.

                If you are going to resurface the flywheel, you might as well put in a new thrust bushing. Measure the input shaft with a digital micrometer. It should be around .75". You can get one at a good auto parts store. Send it along with the flywheel and have the machine shop replace it.

                Hope it goes well... Keep us posted.

                Jeff
                 
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                  Thank's Jeff. I will do such and appreciate your insight.

                  ~John
                   
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                  Keep your flywheel and clutch clean! If you get grease or dirt on either you will have slippage and will burn the clutch. Also, get a good clutch! There are a lot of cheap clutches out there but you are far better off spending money on a good clutch setup. I got lots of experience pulling an 833 by myself on the cold garage floor because I was too cheap to install a good clutch from the start.
                   
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                    It is definitely a job that you can do by yourself. I just pulled the 4 speed in my dads 69 the other weekend. I have the car up on race ramps and used an very affordable transmission jack from Harbor Freight (about $80.00). The trans jack makes it easy to do by yourself and I definitely recommend it. Much easier than wrestling it out by hand and gives you a chance to take your time and not force it.
                     
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                      Of all the great points already mentioned, this is one you don't want to forget. And by following all these tips, you'll see it's a pretty easy job.
                       
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                      hi gang
                      does anyone know if 1165 dollars is too much to completely rebuild a hurst 4 speed out of a 69 roadrunnet with bearing kit seals ,
                      reverse ligh thingy etc.at a transmission repair shop.thanks in advance.
                       
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