Superbird block 0A179707 on FB marketplace

[70gtx440dana]

Original SB block : Link

 

[DeltaV]

Original SB block : Link

Gone.

That's one reason why we ask pictures be included, not just the link.

Edited to show response from Facebook:

 

[dadsbee]

 

[DeltaV]

For those of us with less than stellar eyesight and small cellphone screens:

Seller: Doug Fales
Salem, New Hampshire


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RM23V0A179707

Mopar Parts Buy Sell Trade USA

 

[QuickBpBp]

I saw this post and apparently either someone faked the block in the Super Bird or this is a fake block. The car does exist and was sold at Mecum as Numbers matching.

1970 Plymouth Superbird for Sale at Auction - Mecum Auctions

View the 1970 Plymouth Superbird for sale at Chicago 2019 in Schaumburg, IL as S180.

www.mecum.com

• 1 of 308 V-code 4-speed Superbirds produced
• Estimated $65,000 invested in restoration
• Body stripped to bare metal
• Matching numbers V-code 440 6 BBL engine
• New Process 833 4-speed transmission
• A33 Track Pack Dana 60 rear end with 3.54 gears
• Power steering
• Power brakes with front discs
• EV2 Tor-Red with Black vinyl top and interior
• Bucket seats
• Hurst pistol grip shifter
• Rear-facing front fender scoops
• Tic-Toc-Tac, clock with Rallye gauges
• Beep Beep horn
• Hood hold-down pins
• Rallye wheels
• Goodyear F60-15 Polyglas tires

 

[dadsbee]

Have stamp will travel..

 

[eldubb440]

make the one sold at mecum is the fraud

 

[DeltaV]

I wonder what's on the fender tag.

 

[eldubb440]

I wonder what's on the re-pop fender tag.

fixed

 

[DeltaV]

was sold at Mecum

Looks like it didn't sell.

The BID Goes On

 

[dadsbee]

Comparing stamps I have at the same pad dimension, I'm going with the block stamp is fake. I won't say why...

 

[70gtx440dana]

Comparing stamps I have at the same pad dimension, I'm going with the block stamp is fake. I won't say why...

Are you suggesting the one in the FB for sale ad is faked? I thought the font looked questionable.

 

[eldubb440]

the block is worth more unstamped........ why would anyone stamp it? why stamp it with a number for a car they don't own?

 

[eldubb440]

I'm sure engines were replaced for issues not related to block damage; so some of those blocks must be out there somewhere

 

[70gtx440dana]

If this image is of a factory stamped Superbird block I have to agree the one on FB marketplace is a re-stamp. I hope nobody gets taken.

 

[RealWing]

If this image is of a factory stamped Superbird block I have to agree the one on FB marketplace is a re-stamp. I hope nobody gets taken. View attachment 1793006

One giveaway is that an original VIN stamping pad has curved flycutter machining marks like the original one above. The one on FB does not have these markings

 

[Vitamin_A12]

Clearly, the fake block stamping was done without using a ‘gang’. The numbers are all out of line and jostled. Hell, the spacing even varies from digit to digit. The factory stamped the block digits all at once using a ‘gang’ fixture.
I agree with the post above, why would someone randomly pick a Superbird VIN to put on an engine block? It would be interesting to know the back story.

 

[Some Car Guy]

I remember a year or two ago on BaT there was a hemi car listed. The seller had an attack dog or two that went ballistic in the comments and on Moparts because people questioned a hand stamped block. The argument was essentially that they are common and normal on all mopar engines. Supposedly Dave wise was ok with that listing saying he agreed it was a numbers block. It got pointed out that his own website clearly shows and states a gang stamp is expected.

Top Shelf Mopars is from Canada I believe.