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Trans fluid for 727

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Swapping in a fresh 727 tomorrow and went out in search of fluid tonight. None of the chain stores are stocking Dex III anymore, all they have is listed as Dex/Merc. Says it is a replacement for DexIII. Anyone else running this?
 
yes, that is replacement....and when that is depleted, you can run ATF +4 in yer trans
 
+4 is synthetic....and it's not gonna do any harm if you run it in your trans
 
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Swapping in a fresh 727 tomorrow and went out in search of fluid tonight. None of the chain stores are stocking Dex III anymore, all they have is listed as Dex/Merc. Says it is a replacement for DexIII. Anyone else running this?
Hey Ken used Quaker State Dexron-III/Mercon last time I serviced the 63 Sport Fury.
 
Advance Auto Parts Dextron III/Mercon (ATF) Automatic Transmission Fluid (1 Gallon) $16.99 is what I used. One quart is $4.99.
 
The ATF formulation that was originally used in our cars when they rolled off the line is no longer produced. Try "Type F" which is available at any walmart and inexpensive.
 
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/fluids.html

Group three oils:
Group three oils are petroleum oils that have been hydroisomerized, "hydro-cracked" as it is commonly called. The most stringent level of petroleum oil refining. Much of the paraffin and impurities have been removed and its performance on any number of industry tests is substantially better than it's group two cousins.
Although it is not made from a synthesized, engineered molecule and as such is not a true synthetic oil, it does offer a portion of the benefits you would expect from a true synthetic and in fact is usually sold and marketed as a 100% synthetic product.
In fact the vast majority of synthetic oils on the market are actually made from group three oils because of a lawsuit a few years ago between Mobil and Castrol that totally changed the synthetic oil industry. Because of this lawsuit the buying public has largely been duped into believing that these oils are actually a real synthetic.
Here's what happened. Mobil Inc. makers of Mobil One sued Castrol Inc. makers of Castrol Syntec, accusing them of marketing a hydro cracked petroleum oil as a synthetic-which they were!
Mobil Inc. felt that Castrol Inc. had pursued an unfair market advantage because group three based oils are much less expensive to manufacture than true synthetic oils yet Castrol was marketing Syntec as a 100% synthetic product: Castrol could make it for less, sell it for less and un-fairly under cut all it's competitors in the synthetic oil market with a oil that was not truly a synthetic product.
In the end though, Castrol convinced the court that group a three-based oil has been sufficiently refined that it should be able to be marketed along with true synthetic oils. Basically the court expanded the definition of synthetic to include group three based oils.
Because the synthetic oil market is the fastest growing part of the lubricants industry, manufactures are eager to jump up and grab the profits that having that sexy customer grabbing word synthetic on the bottle bring.
Group three oils have no where near the performance of true custom engineered synthetic oils, especially in tempeture extremes where the men get separated from the boys so to speak!
As was stated before, the vast majority of what is being sold as synthetic is now really group three petroleum based oils-and the public for the most part doesn't know the difference. But now you do!

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not all ATF+4 is synthetic
Mopar ATF+4 and castrol +4 , valvoline +4 are synthetic
 
Run type F it has the right modifiers for bands most new transmisions don't have bands I believe it is a little heavier weight which is not a bad thing being fair weather cars with more power and looser converters.
 
not all ATF+4 is synthetic
Mopar ATF+4 and castrol +4 , valvoline +4 are synthetic

So is Redline C+ ATF All-Synthetic Formula 30% greater hi-temp viscosity, formulated for Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4 for Type 7176 or Type 9602 transmission fluids, has less hi-temp evaporation compared to petroleum based oils, it keeps clutch faces, bands & shift valves clean, perfect for heavily loaded performance transmissions... Also Royal Purple Max ATF, is a Chrysler racing Oil ATF+4 rated, used in my 99 Dakota SLT 4x4 for quite a few years now... Neither of them are cheap, but work great, I've used both for quite a while now, no failures or overheating ever... I use to use Torco Racing Trans Fluids ATF+3 & ATF+4 Chrysler spec. in my racecars & either the Jeffco or Lenco trans too, even used it in a Clutch-flite I had for a while, it was really pricey even 20 years ago, I got it free/sponsored from ERC/Torco Racing Oils, so I used all their products... never had any issues with that fluid either when allot of people around had failures & burned up transmissions right & left.... Sometime you actually get what your paying for in oils & fluids especially... my $0.02 cents
 

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So is Redline C+ ATF All-Synthetic Formula 30% greater hi-temp viscosity, formulated for Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4 for Type 7176 or Type 9602 transmission fluids, has less hi-temp evaporation compared to petroleum based oils, it keeps clutch faces, bands & shift valves clean, perfect for heavily loaded performance transmissions... Also Royal Purple Max ATF, is a Chrysler racing Oil ATF+4 rated, used in my 99 Dakota SLT 4x4 for quite a few years now... Neither of them are cheap, but work great, I've used both for quite a while now, no failures or overheating ever... I use to use Torco Racing Trans Fluids ATF+3 & ATF+4 Chrysler spec. in my racecars & either the Jeffco or Lenco trans too, even used it in a Clutch-flite I had for a while, it was really pricey even 20 years ago, I got it free/sponsored from ERC/Torco Racing Oils, so I used all their products... never had any issues with that fluid either when allot of people around had failures & burned up transmissions right & left.... Sometime you actually get what your paying for in oils & fluids especially... my $0.02 cents
I havent used those thanks for the info
 
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