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Unbiased views on Chevelle SS

There is a ‘68 Olds 442 for sale locally that has a rebuilt factory installed 455, rebuilt rear axle, new paint, new interior, and a really interesting documented history. The bumpers are rough…but the car is for sale for $30k. A similar mopar would be a lot more!

there were 2 68 442s around here........one belonged to a friend of mine.........he beat the crap out of it relentlessly; it was always like, "thank you sir, may I have another?"
 
I hate to say it, but it seems like you can get crazy power out of the newer LS engines. Lots of guys don't even consider old-school BBC swaps any more. Local guy around here has a blown Corvette LS in an old Caprice wagon. Sneaky!
they do respond very well to thoughtful modification but unless it's a full blown resto-mod, I'm always disappointed looking under the hood of any classic car and seeing a computerized engine. All of the new engines, LS's & LT's, Hemi's or Coyote platforms all come with their fair share of pain in the *** features. I just had to refresh a 5.3 LS and it of course needed a cam and lifters, this now involves pulling the heads along with all of the other crap they put where the carb should be. To each their own, in the end it's cool to see any vintage car out causing trouble on the streets
 
There is a ‘68 Olds 442 for sale locally that has a rebuilt factory installed 455, rebuilt rear axle, new paint, new interior, and a really interesting documented history. The bumpers are rough…but the car is for sale for $30k. A similar mopar would be a lot more!
If it is indeed factory installed, then it would be a Hurst/Olds. Otherwise, the 400 cubic inch limit was in place for GM intermediates. If it is a genuine H/O, then the engine would be painted red. There were only 515 of that model made for 1968.
 
If it is indeed factory installed, then it would be a Hurst/Olds. Otherwise, the 400 cubic inch limit was in place for GM intermediates. If it is a genuine H/O, then the engine would be painted red. There were only 515 of that model made for 1968.
Lot of people don’t know the 400 olds engines were different bore and stroke combinations from 66/67 to 68 and newer also. I didn’t realize they only made so few though I’m 68. I thought they were the standard 442 engine and there were several thousand made, maybe close to 10k
 
If you venture into LS6 cars,Yenko and COPO Chevelles you are playing in the deep end of the pool moneywise! I would buy a Hemi Mopar first.
This was my first thought too. A friend of mine bought a true numbers matching concourse condition 71 LS6 4 Speed 10 years ago and paid $130k. Granted I’m sure you won’t be looking for a #1 car, but the premiums on the Chevelles are crazy like 68/69 Mopars.
The good thing about Chevelles is they are easy to get parts for and relatively cheap to build, modify and enjoy.
This definitely is the best thing about any GM.
There are more Chevelle SS cars today than what was originally produced. I don't think Chevy ever made a non SS Chevelle as I've never seen one.
And Z28 Camaro’s. I personally would not own a Chevelle just because they are not unique. You see tons of them and Camaro’s at car shows. Also the fact that there are so many clones and the VIN numbers don’t distinguish on the later models you have no idea what you are getting. If it’s advertised and sold as a clone then that’s one thing, if it’s not you have no idea.
BUT!!!! One must be VERY careful to not get 'taken' when buying one - SS cars are relatively easy to clone in the 68-72 years, and the prices are off the charts worse for real and rare/high horsepower cars.

I personally wouldn’t do a Chevelle. I would look for something more unique. Firebirds, any Buick, Olds, or Ponchos 68-72. I usually scroll right past the Chevys when looking, except the 70-73 split bumper Camaro, I always had a soft spot for them. If you want something truly unique check out 68/69 FWD Oldsmobile Toranado. FWD might not be your cup of tea, buts it definitely fits the bill for something put together completely different than a Mopar and it’s got some balls too and rides very nice.
 
Lot of people don’t know the 400 olds engines were different bore and stroke combinations from 66/67 to 68 and newer also. I didn’t realize they only made so few though I’m 68. I thought they were the standard 442 engine and there were several thousand made, maybe close to 10k
There were many thousands of 400 cubic inch 442 and Cutlass models in 1968. The 515 figure I mentioned was the the Hurst/Olds Cutlass with a factory 455.
 
This was my first thought too. A friend of mine bought a true numbers matching concourse condition 71 LS6 4 Speed 10 years ago and paid $130k. Granted I’m sure you won’t be looking for a #1 car, but the premiums on the Chevelles are crazy like 68/69 Mopars.

This definitely is the best thing about any GM.

And Z28 Camaro’s. I personally would not own a Chevelle just because they are not unique. You see tons of them and Camaro’s at car shows. Also the fact that there are so many clones and the VIN numbers don’t distinguish on the later models you have no idea what you are getting. If it’s advertised and sold as a clone then that’s one thing, if it’s not you have no idea.


I personally wouldn’t do a Chevelle. I would look for something more unique. Firebirds, any Buick, Olds, or Ponchos 68-72. I usually scroll right past the Chevys when looking, except the 70-73 split bumper Camaro, I always had a soft spot for them. If you want something truly unique check out 68/69 FWD Oldsmobile Toranado. FWD might not be your cup of tea, buts it definitely fits the bill for something put together completely different than a Mopar and it’s got some balls too and rides very nice.
Without a doubt about the 1st gen Z28’s, there are so many fakes it’s crazy. In 67 you can’t fake them without falsifying trim tags, 602 built. 68’s are really tough to authenticate unless you have an original block. A lot of the 302’s didn’t survive due to the extremely high rpm range they liked to operate in. There are a lot of really good fake blocks but the Camaro Research Group (CRG) has many known good stamps for comparison as the stamps have changed thru out the months or between Van Nuys or the Norwood plants and honestly in 69 I never cared enough to go into the details but the fakes are numerous. I have a real 68 Z28 and they are special, especially the very early cars as mine is, 12/67 build date. GM didn’t advertise or mention these cars anywhere until march of 1968 so anything built before then was a purpose built car for someone that was in the know. They dominated the Trans Am series and definitely served a purpose. I’m a fan of purpose built cars of any marquee
 
If it is indeed factory installed, then it would be a Hurst/Olds. Otherwise, the 400 cubic inch limit was in place for GM intermediates. If it is a genuine H/O, then the engine would be painted red. There were only 515 of that model made for 1968.
I misspoke. It was installed as a dealership warranty replacement in 1969 after the car was stolen and the engine was blown by the joy riding thief. The owner has the paperwork for the engine and fender replacement, I forgot to mention it’s a W-30 with red fiberglass inner fenders. I was/am interested but I’m a mopar lover at heart.
 
My opinion on Chevelle..... I am a gearhead, I own a 2002 8.1 big block crew cab truck, I had a Olds Cutlass in high School, I had a Mustang, an F250, I have a few Mopars now. So, my opinion is not based on brand loyalty.

They made, if I remember the chart correctly, almost a half a million fast back malibu/Chevelle in 1970 alone. Add the sedan and convertibles and the number grows.
They are not special cars, because the Chevy guys made so many fake clones it will make your head spin. They certainly aren't some special body style, they made hundreds of thousands of them, in one year alone!
I go to Iola, there are at least 25 of them every year, and that is just what is parked while I walk around as they come and go during the day.

I normally beat up on the Ford zealots, you know the type- the guys eyes get really wide and they almost froth at the mouth telling you how whatever Ford thing is the best thing ever made. Well, for a Chevy guy, that is a Chevelle. They will gladly tell you the fake clone car they built is bone stock with 400hp even though it has a stroked 350 small block, and then try to sell it for $60k because they were the best cars on the street back then, according to them and their nostalgia.

I don't actually mind the car. But the owners are irritating, as a generalization. And the hype built around them makes them a dime a dozen, in my eyes. They all look the same, the vast majority have had the engines super worked over and/or swapped, and the majority of them started life as a cheap mass market 2 door with a sporty look. They get money spent on them and some badges applied and suddenly it is an SS.

If you want to mess with one, go for it! Just don;t expect the same looks from gear heads as you might get from a nice Mopar. Do NOT, under any circumstances, pay SS money for a car without proper documentation, and even then i would not buy it without going home to research it more.
If you want a fun car to drive and beat on that is "easy" (because chevy stuff is basically easy) to work on and find parts, it can be a blast.
So if you want one, do it for you, and do it to drive, and don;t expect to make money selling it later.

Personally, I would buy an Olds instead, because they are a similar car but started life as a better car and a rocket 350 is a rocket 350 no matter what yo put it in, or a 455 for that matter. But I do have a sweet spot for Olds, and especially the 455, so don;t take my word for it :)

To sum it up: from a pure gearhead point of view, while the Chevelle is certainly a capable fun car, it is also the least remarkable of basically anything GM built in the era, not to mention where it ranks when you add Ford and Chrysler to the mix. Still, with the right expectations and the right price on a car, you could do righteous burnouts in one all day.
 
This one caught my attention.

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Take your time. It is not exactly a difficult car to find LOL. There were the first two things that came up on the generic google search I just did, and I only included one year.
 
Cant beat a nice 70 Chevelle, LS6 454, 4 speed and a 12 bolt. That was the ululate ride back in the day if you can afford it. Lest not forget the 71-72 Heavy Chevy. Small block with a 4 speed and the 12 bolt. A little more affordable. One of the best comfortable bucket seats at the time.
 
I've not owned a chevelle but many friends did.
I did own a 2 door 72 skylark 350 hard top, so I can comment on that.

That car rode "squishy".
Perhaps more so than a chevy of the same platform, but squishy, nonetheless.
It had that very noticeable gm coil spring "shimmy" of the rear axle under a hard takeoff.
It did not handle nearly as good an any Mopar I have owned.
It did not seem any more powerful than the 318 powered B body Mopars I was used to.
While the seats were soft, I can't call it "comfortable" because there was about 1.5-2" less headroom than a Mopar B body (or even a Duster) and I need that. (To be fair, my 71 torino gt had the same problem.)

That skylark was in very good shape when bought in 1987.
Only one small rip on a seat seam and almost zero rust (a curious, thin line starting at the top of the rear wheel arch and continuing down the middle of the indentation, almost to the bottom).

I had that car at the same time as a 1967 Coronet 440 318 car.
The coronet was WAY more rusty.
However, I chose the Coronet, to keep and drive to Florida, and sold the skylark to a friend.
I trusted the Coronet to make it and wasn't sure about the buick.
 
Without a doubt about the 1st gen Z28’s, there are so many fakes it’s crazy. In 67 you can’t fake them without falsifying trim tags, 602 built. 68’s are really tough to authenticate unless you have an original block. A lot of the 302’s didn’t survive due to the extremely high rpm range they liked to operate in. There are a lot of really good fake blocks but the Camaro Research Group (CRG) has many known good stamps for comparison as the stamps have changed thru out the months or between Van Nuys or the Norwood plants and honestly in 69 I never cared enough to go into the details but the fakes are numerous. I have a real 68 Z28 and they are special, especially the very early cars as mine is, 12/67 build date. GM didn’t advertise or mention these cars anywhere until march of 1968 so anything built before then was a purpose built car for someone that was in the know. They dominated the Trans Am series and definitely served a purpose. I’m a fan of purpose built cars of any marquee
One year Vince Piggins attended the Street Machine Nationals. During an interview, he said "Ya know, in 1967 Chevrolet built 612 Z28s; its so nice to see all three thousand of them here this weekend!"
 
I have a 66 GTO, which I have had for 30 yrs. I have also had many Chrys cars. I like the coil springs at the rear; many of the GM cars of that era were available with a HD or ' handling package', which came with stiffer springs & better shocks. The factory shocks left much to be desired, especially in the rear. Leaf springs have the built in friction from the leaves rubbing together. You do not have that with coil springs. So it is most important to use quality shocks, as it makes a nite/day difference.
 
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