New trick flow bb head's!!

[ma mopar nutz]

BEEN REALLY KICKING AROUND GOING WITH THE NEW TRICK FLOW HEADS ON MY current BUILD ANYONE ELSE LOOKING AT THESE OF HAVE THEM ON THE WAY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT EVERYONE THINKS OF THESE I THINK TRICK FLOW MAKES A VERY GOOD HEAD AT LEAST FOR CHEVY AND FORD APPLICATIONS ???? THANKS

 

[lewtot184]

if those heads will do what they advertise, then they will obsolete edelbrock rpm and stealth heads.

 

[texas69bee]

Just make sure this isn't going on a 383. The minimum bore diameter is 4.320 for the trick flow heads.

 

[ma mopar nutz]

if those heads will do what they advertise, then they will obsolete edelbrock rpm and stealth heads.

Yes sir for sure I have a set of stealths laying around I was gonna throw on just cuz they have been sitting in my shop a few years but I'm really tempted to splurge and go with trick.flow I'm sure no one is running them yet just want some others view of n them before I jump on them!

 

[Photon440]

Just make sure this isn't going on a 383. The minimum bore diameter is 4.320 for the trick flow heads.

So that will narrow the applications, as the 413 and 426 will be undersized as well...

 

[lewtot184]

So that will narrow the applications, as the 413 and 426 will be undersized as well...

probably could notch the bores. intake valves 2.18 and larger will need to have valve to bore clearance checked; especially with high lift cams.

 

[67Satty]

if those heads will do what they advertise, then they will obsolete edelbrock rpm and stealth heads.

Competition for the standard port Indy EZs as well maybe. From the flow numbers I've seen posted, they outflow the Indy EZs at lower lifts and match them at higher lifts.

 

[Budnicks]

Has anyone actually know anyone, whose actually run them even

240cc CNC Trick Flows
326cfm int/254cfm ext @ 0.600" valve lift/CNC ported

looks allot like/similar castings to the Edelbrocks 77929 closed chamber 84cc/210 {un-ported size}
{but with the smaller similar Eddy E-Street type 75cc Combustion Chamber}
but with a CNC port job, different parts etc.

look nice just wonder if any real world experiences on using them,

I don't think they will obsolete the cheap Stealth's,
there are those that will always bargain/price point shopper,
for the cheapest foreign casted, sets of aluminum heads...
Not that that's a bad thing...LOL

I don't think they will obsolete the Eddys either,
especially on their middle of the road type "Performer RPM Aluminum" BB Mopar Wedge heads,
{let alone the Victors, for racing app.'s}
they are a completely different price point by far &
have a wider fitment ranges, including the smaller bores, of the 361, 383, 413, 426, to 4.5" bores
it's a completely different market/demographic,
for Out of the Box type bolt on performance upgrades in an Aluminum Cylinder Heads,
either set can be CNC ported, easily to that level & "probably/close" at about the same costs/prices,
give or take a couple $100 bucks either way...

There are more than one way to skin a cat, they're not the only heads in town...
Just another new one "finally produced" from Trick Flow for a Mopar,
they've been Cheby & Ford guys for ever...

My $0.02 cents

I wonder if IQ52 has checked a set out yet, curious to see what he says & thinks

 

[cwhubb]

I've heard the price starting at 1,800 bucks, is that per set? per head?

 

[69 GTX]

A set.

 

[Deleted member 214]

The latest Summit catalog has them at $1,979 with 1.460 springs and .650 max lift, $1,999 for 1.550 springs .680 max lift, $2,199 with titanium retainers, and $2,199 for 1.560 springs/titanium for .700 max lift.

 

[Budnicks]

The latest Summit catalog has them at $1,979 with 1.460 springs and .650 max lift, $1,999 for 1.550 springs .680 max lift, $2,199 with titanium retainers, and $2,199 for 1.560 springs/titanium for .700 max lift.

Yeah they still don't list them in the big 2 page 136-137 add on their heads
or their add on page 139 either {Typical crap for the Ford & Cheby guys...LOL}
second fiddle I guess don't rate except for the
"Mopar specific listings Mopars...LOL, that TF BB-Mopar 240cc add on way back on page 301"

 

[theman440]

I took a look at them @ MATS - real nice castings and full CNC ports. Bolt em on and see!

 

[65Fury440]

I wonder if they will open up to MW size? How much improvement could a porter do with a set?

 

[Ghoulardi]

I have talked to Trick Flow several times. Nobody has them yet. They are supposed to be released at the end of May. Full CNC porting and clearanced for 3/8" pushrods.

440 Source CNC Stealth Airflow Results
Lift - Intake / Exhaust
.100" -.. 75.0 / 72.9
.200" - 156.7 / 124.8
.300" - 219.8 / 166.4
.400" - 266.2 / 198.1
.500" - 298.8 / 219.3
.600" - 314.9 / 233.3
.700" - 320.7 / 243.8

TRICK FLOW PowerPort 240 Airflow Results
Lift - Intake / Exhaust
.100" -.. 78 / 58
.200" - 154 / 130
.300" - 230 / 186
.400" - 282 / 222
.500" - 310 / 243
.600" - 326 / 253
.700" - 334 / 262

Trick Flow Powerport 240 heads and matching intake - I hope they make a low-deck version too.

 

[Michael789]

I don't really get it I've seen advertising for theses heads to also bolt up to the 383 and then they list a bore size min that puts the 383 out of the equation, why is this? Chrysler used the same heads on the 383 and 440 why won't these work with the 383? I know the difference between the B/RB motors but the heads are the same it's the block that's different(taller).Am I right in thinking that the trick flow heads have a bigger combustion chamber size that's too large for the use on a 383 bore size? If that's true than how can you use the same heads on two different bore size motors (383/440)all these years with no issues? Some
clarification would be great,thanks.

 

[Ghoulardi]

The valves used in these heads are slightly larger than stock.

Read the spec sheet: http://www.trickflow.com/pressreleases/powerport240cylinder/

 

[Michael789]

Designed to fit Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth 383-440 B and RB engines, the PowerPort 240 Cylinder Heads work with all factory-style pistons, roller rocker arms, intake manifolds, and headers, making these heads an affordable performance upgrade. The heads are available fully assembled with valves, valve springs, locks, and retainers or as bare castings.

Ok this is from the page linked from Ghoulardi on the specs ,so again why won't these work with a 383? Maybe there is a misprint or something but i don't see how the valves well keep these from working on a b motor .I'll dig in a little more and I'll find out one way or another, but this is fun to me learning about a new product do's and dont's.

 

[Ghoulardi]

Well, the spec sheet says that the minimum required bore diameter is 4.320 and a 383 is 4.250.
a 400 is 4.340 and a 440 is 4.320. the 4.320 minimum is required because the larger 2.190 intake
valves are just big enough to have a clearance problem with the 4.250 bore 383 engine.

Stock B-motor intake valves are only 2.080 (the stock exhaust valves are 1.750 & Trick Flow 1.760).

A 383 would have to be 0.070 over to have a large enough bore to eliminate clearance and shrouding
concerns (not likely to happen). I can think of no other reason why they would not work.

 

[Photon440]

Their specs contradict each other.

This is Trick Flows first entry into the Mopar cylinder head market. The head fits B and RB engines with 4.320 or greater bore. That includes the 383, 400, 440 and larger derivatives.

With a 4.25 bore, that leaves 3 million 383s out of the picture. Also the 413 and 426 wedge would be too small.