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Women's rights and empowerment???

747mopar

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I've unfortunately had to sit and watch 2 divorces in my close family and can't help but get angry as hell about the way the system works. It doesn't matter how great of a father or husband a man has been he's getting bent over and unless there's something severely wrong with the mother he's not getting custody. Why is it that we always have to hear about women's rights, equal oppurtunity and how they aren't being treated fairly but the second one decides to screw around on a loyal supportive spouse they're all of a sudden incapable of making it without robbing the man of his lively hood???????? Half his retirement, spousal support, child support even though there's shared parenting, half the belongings and all while living with another man... It's painful to sit on the sidelines and bite my tongue especially while watching the children be used as leverage. How about a little EQUALITY around here for once, seams to me that there's always an admittance of weakness the second they're on their own.
Please don't take this as an attack on women but on the absolute evil ones that care nothing about the man that took care of them and his family and will stop at nothing to take everything..... pure evil! Rant over
 
Yep it's kind of sad, I've seen a lot of that bias too...

I'm a product of a blended family & so are my kids... {long story}
I have 5 sisters, 2 bros. & raised 4 girls & 2 boys,
I've seen my share of that bias myself, way too many divorces too...
MY ol' Pops was divorced 3 times & took to the cleaners by a 4th,
"live in" domestic partnership, the "Lee Marvin law" got him on that one,
other than my mother, they all took him for 1/2 if not more,
my mother only got $35 per kid = $105 a month in 1961-ish...

Not all mothers get the bank, some get the shaft too...
1 of my younger adopted sisters was a gold digger &
took the guys for everything she could, several times...

But like you said it's really bias, towards the women...
Especially custody, my parents let "Us decide",
I was only 18 months when my parents 1st divorced thou...
When I was older, I chose to live with my real father...

There are a ton of dead beat dads too...
That don't deserve chit either, I know of a couple personally...
They really piss me off, long story I won't go into on a public forum...
 
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Been down that road over 20 years ago, and as a result, life ain't as nice as it could be. From my perspective, the laws can be vastly different from state to state. I too have seen these things go both ways and I personally know people of both genders who got screwed. When I went through it in NJ, 94.6% of the time the woman got the house, the kids, the car, the dog, etc....and the power to squeeze more from you almost at will. In my opinion, in the eyes of the courts, you, as a male have absolutely no value as a parent; only as a bread winner. I faired better than many but still not good. I recall a funny bit that George Carlin did about divorce many years back where they made a game show out of it. The funny thing is at that time it wasn't far off. It always pissed me off that you can't claim child support on your taxes. There once was a very diverse group of men in NJ that were called "Parents Without Rights". They still exist under a new name and will actually stand by and fight for women as well. The way things used to be for many men was "You will support the ex and kids in the fashion to which they became accustomed, even if you have to work 3 jobs!" If you can't see the kids because you have to work so much, tuff chit!
It is a very sad thing indeed. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my own rant!
 
I too see that the women, no matter how bad, gets more from the man. Sure there are the deadbeat dads but why take it out on the good fathers that did the right thing?
 
As in many "protected" categories it's not really equal but "equal or better" that liberals seek.
 
Yep same up here. Three lawyers told me to forget trying to get sole custody since I'm male. Ridiculous. She is a terrible mother to them and there's nothing i could do but sit and watch the train wreck and be there for when they needed my support. The kids moved in with us once they could decide for themselves. The system is so heavily weighed against fathers..quite sad really.
 
bitd,when i split up w wife i went for custody..i was making Good money,my own house,multiple vehicles etc etc.
the court and ss was So Biased against me,because i was a Guy,that it was Ridiculous!!


the only thing that saved me,was my ex lied to the ss and then to the judges face,at which point she got called out,cussed out,and then i got custody.
keep in mind my kiddo Wanted to live with me too,not her mom.
ss was completely overlooking what my kiddo wanted.....

since then,ive met a bunch of fathers who raised their kids themselves and every one of us has talked about how Freaking Hard it was to get custody even tho Clearly we were the only responsible parent......
 
Yep same up here. Three lawyers told me to forget trying to get sole custody since I'm male. Ridiculous. She is a terrible mother to them and there's nothing i could do but sit and watch the train wreck and be there for when they needed my support. The kids moved in with us once they could decide for themselves. The system is so heavily weighed against fathers..quite sad really.
Sounds familiar, pretty well sums up how this one is going down. Kids desperately want to live with the father and I'm sure they will at some point but to young for the near future.
 
I too see that the women, no matter how bad, gets more from the man. Sure there are the deadbeat dads but why take it out on the good fathers that did the right thing?
Absolutely, matter of fact the NEW man fits that bill. I'd be willing to bet the dead beat dad's outweigh the dead beat moms but dammit don't throw us all under the bus. Comes down to the court's not doing their job, an unbiased assessment!
 
If the wife did not work outside the home from what I've heard she gets more. It seems only fair that if a woman stays home,raises the kids,keeps the house in order she is entitled to half of what is owned or built up during the time married. Custody and child support are another matter. While i know many guys who divorced and it cost plenty financially i also know a few woman friends who divorced and they got very little so its a two way street. The idea of saying my wife got half this and half that is not always telling the full story. As i said if she stayed home raised your kids,cooked your meals,cleaned your house then she's entitled plain and simple.
 
Case in point...my daughter will be here on July1st. First time I have laid eyes on her in 12 years. Once she realized how f,..d up her mother and her family are she hit the road and we just recently found her. She's 22. I cant wait..very excited.
 
Case in point...my daughter will be here on July1st. First time I have laid eyes on her in 12 years. Once she realized how f,..d up her mother and her family are she hit the road and we just recently found her. She's 22. I cant wait..very excited.
I m so happy your daughter has grown up enough to see through adult eyes, and chooses to live differently.
 
I served in the Army for 24 years, was married for the first 14 years and my ex divorced me after having an affair with another guy. She got one-third of my retirement pay because of the Uniformed Services Former Spouses' Protection Act even though the divorce was not my fault...plus she got a buttload of child support for my 2 kids. Bottom line: She got screwed by another guy and I got screwed by her.
 
Case in point...my daughter will be here on July1st. First time I have laid eyes on her in 12 years. Once she realized how f,..d up her mother and her family are she hit the road and we just recently found her. She's 22. I cant wait..very excited.
Im real happy for you!!! Your post made my day!
 
Case in point...my daughter will be here on July1st. First time I have laid eyes on her in 12 years. Once she realized how f,..d up her mother and her family are she hit the road and we just recently found her. She's 22. I cant wait..very excited.
GR, I am happy for you! Great news......

Kids through time eventually will put 2 and 2 together and figure the situation out. Some sooner and some later......
 
If the wife did not work outside the home from what I've heard she gets more. It seems only fair that if a woman stays home,raises the kids,keeps the house in order she is entitled to half of what is owned or built up during the time married. Custody and child support are another matter. While i know many guys who divorced and it cost plenty financially i also know a few woman friends who divorced and they got very little so its a two way street. The idea of saying my wife got half this and half that is not always telling the full story. As i said if she stayed home raised your kids,cooked your meals,cleaned your house then she's entitled plain and simple.
O.K. I left that out, she worked the whole marriage making equal or close to it money per hour but not full hours. Now that she found a new bed mate she's working more hours.... oh yeah he's (her new man) unemployed and everything he now has has came from either her or gues who? Sorry but to me I could give a rats *** less, if you choose to leave for another man when there are no grounds otherwise then you should be willing to walk away with only half the equity that was aquired and child support (reseanable child support). Here's another, if you have shared parenting then why is there child support anyways? I've worked with guys that were father in laws and can remember hearing them bitch about not getting a check and how it screwed them from getting this or that..... counting on another mans income to pay your way??? Makes me sick.
 
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Justice is supposed to be blind, not stupid...LOL

I'm glad I never was or will be divorced, but know far too well of what happens...
I do know what it's like to raise a family on your own, I saw my mother do it for years,
I did it for years too...
I've seen far too much of it too, usually because of someone was cheating,
not just the men, alcohol, drugs, income, lifestyle, jobs, greed even, peers or friends
outsiders meddling corruptions, or marriage of convenience etc...

It's sad how many people & the %'s of marriages that don't work, like 50% now...
Rushing into a relationship...
Infatuated with someone & not really liking or knowing them or what love really is...
Love is trust, un wavering trust, marriage is more so of that, both sides give & take,
sharing life, to death do you part etc. {unfortunately in my case the latter}

Participation trophy generation, 3 - 4+ decades of it now, not having to work or win,
to gain status mentality, having it served up on a silver platter, entitlement mentality,
even in divorce, been that way for a loooong time now...
Product of the downfall of morals, family values, sexual preferences/perversions etc.
& to a large part, IMO It's liberalism that has propagated into life/family today...

OK off my soapbox now...
 
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