1970 convertible road runner

[garrett1308]

Picked up. 70 satellite convertible, may be a roadrunner, but vin is RH23, and has wrong pop rivets. Numbers match on the radiator support and trunk gutter. Has 11" drums.

No title, bill of sale. No fender tag or buildsheet. Will probably build it into a roadrunner. What should I do about the vin?

 

[PurpleBeeper]

First thing, run the complete VIN number vs. stolen cars. So, you say the radiator core support and the trunk lip sequence numbers MATCH the last digits of the VIN tag on the dash?

As you already know, RH23 = hardtop and I'm pretty sure you can tell a convertible from a hardtop. Does the trunk lip look like it has had some work done on it? Does the radiator core support appear to be original?

 

[garrett1308]

Trunk and radiator number match each other. Dash board is rotted, vin is incorrect for the body of the car and is put on with steel rivers that are not Mopar. I do not have the complete vin for the car, only what the body stamps say.

 

[garrett1308]

Unibody sheet metal is all original, doors have been changed, cannot tell if dash is original.
Has air, firewall holes look correct. Dash is a rallye frame, but rusted. Do not think windshield has ever been

 

[garrett1308]

 

[garrett1308]

There's some pictures of the roadrunner and the 70 charger I got with it.
Guy who lent me the trailer forgot to tell me he took the ramps out, had to get creative to load it.
Charger is a plum crazy car, looks like a factory sunroof, plug ends all look Mopar, but I'm not too sure. Needs a lot of frame rail work though.

 

[PurpleBeeper]

That's a Road Runner convertible. I'd bet $100 on it since the fake side scoop badges are there and look original. That Charger is fantastic as well.

For the Road Runner, there were only 824 built. 801 383's, 3 Hemi's and 20 440+6, so you should be able to determine the VIN pretty easily. I believe most started as "medium level" RM27.... You know the sequence number. They were ALL built in the St.Louis plant. You might get some good info at roadrunnernest.com. If you don't have a skid plate under the engine cross-member, it's a 383 car for sure.

 

[garrett1308]

Yep, definitely a 1 of 1 hemi with air.

Dash is a rallye frame and has not ever been pulled, goin to check the badge locations and see if there's any body filler hiding holes for the sport satellite badges. Cannot believe I found a convertible roadrunner though.
Texas DMV has no record of a rm27n0g177247, may end up having to do a builders title and vin.

 

[khryslerkid]

The vert has a Texas license plate. It could be backtracked if it belonged to the car originally.

Nice find!

 

[garrett1308]

You're right, did not think of that krysler kid. Thank you very much!

Edit:
Ran it, they don't have it on file, said if it's more than 10 years, then the information is deleted

 

[PurpleBeeper]

I still say keep trying different combinations of VIN's....maybe try any combination like this....it can't be all that many to check.

R(*)27(**)0G177247
(*) = E, L, H, M, P or S
(**) = N, V or R

By my crude math, it must be one of 15 possible VIN numbers.....that's it. Piece of cake. Maybe you found one of the Hemi's???? I've only seen one 440+6 Road Runner convertible. It was a picture of a yellow stripe delete car in a museum & I've never seen a Hemi car.

 

[khryslerkid]

You're right, did not think of that krysler kid. Thank you very much!

Edit:
Ran it, they don't have it on file, said if it's more than 10 years, then the information is deleted

Well it was worth a shot.

Look for a discarded registration card or dealer receipts. Purple Beeper has the right idea. It looks like it was originally yellow. Good luck!

 

[garrett1308]

Air conditioned, so not a hemi car, I don't think I'd ever get that lucky. Although I did get lucky enough to buy a 70 roadrunner convertible for 1000 dollars in 2017. Was an air grabber required with 440-6?

Car is sitting in a storage area right now, leaving there tomorrow, do not want it to get stolen but needed a place to keep it for a day. When I get to it tomorrow, will check real close to see if it was an air grabber car. Hood was removed from it, but so was the passenger fender, so there's a slight chance it was.
Tomorrow I'll call the DMV again and harass them with the multiple vin possibilities. Just started talking with a company that can reproduce the tag.

 

[garrett1308]

This one is sun fire yellow with a stripe delete.

Just to make sure it's a roadrunner, a satellite convertible would have to have buckets and a console, correct? Unless specified to no of course. This car has no evidence of the console braces on the floor. It's automatic on the column, no hole in the floor.
There are holes in the trunk lid, which is the original one, for the go wing. Not necessarily original but they're there. Steering wheel was removed and replaced with a cheap aftermarket one. emergency brake pedal has chrome trim around it. Original AC rally dash (complete with rust under where the glove box was). Doors were swapped, driver fender was not. Will check the tail lights to see if they have sun fire yellow under the orange, looks like it on the driver side though. No holes for trim down the quarters.
Dash has holes for trim around the globe box door, think it was possible to have a roadrunner with trim there, but I'm not sure.

 

[69Coronetrt]

I still say keep trying different combinations of VIN's....maybe try any combination like this....it can't be all that many to check.

R(*)27(**)0G177247
(*) = E, L, H, M, P or S
(**) = N, V or R

By my crude math, it must be one of 15 possible VIN numbers.....that's it. Piece of cake. Maybe you found one of the Hemi's???? I've only seen one 440+6 Road Runner convertible. It was a picture of a yellow stripe delete car in a museum & I've never seen a Hemi car.

You might want to check your configurations. For example, the GTX was not offered in a convertible in 1970 so you can remove RS27. RE27 is not possible either.

 

[WP29440SE]

Any more details on the charger? I would love to have that thing , nice score on both.

 

[Pistol Pete]

See if there is a factory hanger for the second muffler. Two hangers would mean dual exhaust, (though not necessarily a RoadRunner) but a single hanger would indicate a 318/225 = Satellite.

 

[BLK 68 R/T]

Rally dash was roadrunner. If it was a satellite it would have the dash with the sweep speedometer.

 

[garrett1308]

It's the original rallye dash in the car, has the hole for the power top switch. Only Roadrunners and satellites could be convertibles, no gtx's, belvederes, or sport satellites. Satellites could not have the stacked tail lights or the rallye cluster. Stacked tail lights have sun fire yellow pain under them. They're original. Has dual exhaust hangers.

Did the sway bar mounts for the front end change between 68 and 70? The sway bar on my 68 roadrunner's sway bar mounting is quite a bit different than the way this one mounts.

 

[BLK 68 R/T]

Yep, that is the way they mount in'70.