Warning to self

[vintage chromoly]

added a decal to the tractor so i can't sue myself if I get maimed

 

[Ron H]

Signs and decals are only as beneficial as those who will take note of them. Old safety guy once said "all safety rules are written in blood". I never forgot that as he held up a 100 dollar bill asking if anyone could say otherwise in a room of 50 safety people...he kept his $100 Bill.

 

[Ironbuilt]

Signs and decals are only as beneficial as those who will take note of them. Old safety guy once said "all safety rules are written in blood". I never forgot that as he held up a 100 dollar bill asking if anyone could say otherwise in a room of 50 safety people...he kept his $100 Bill.

Can't say the same today. At least not in the trucking industry. It seems that the "safety rules" of today are written by some over paid kiss *** who has never driven a truck. Sometimes I think that the only thing that they ride is the d@ck.

 

[Kern Dog]

Same **** goes on in construction. Occasionally I have worked for different companies when my primary employer has no work. They must be used to hiring some real dipshits because most of them had "by the book" ON SITE safety monitors. That is sort of like having a ticket happy Cop in your car when you are out cruising in a fast car. EVERY move you make is under the microscope. I have 30 years in the trade, I know how to do "dangerous" stuff without hurting myself or others. These stick in the ***-clowns all fit the same mold: Classroom educated with zero real-world working experience. Why is it the case that the people making the rules never have to live by them?

 

[Brandy]

Same **** goes on in construction. Occasionally I have worked for different companies when my primary employer has no work. They must be used to hiring some real dipshits because most of them had ON SITE safety monitors. That is sort of like having a ticket happy Cop in your car when you are out cruising in a fast car. EVERY move you make is under the microscope. I have 30 years in the trade, I know how to do "dangerous" stuff without hurting myself or others. These stick in the ***-clowns all fit the same mold: Classroom educated with zero real-world working experience. Why is it the case that the people making the rules never have to live by them?

I know, right?

 

[Ron H]

I've been one of those clowns (self-employed) you mention on some large projects and had worked in the trenches for years aside from years of education/certifications at my expense to be able to do this work and add more time and money to stay valid certification-wise. Hired by contractors required by GC's under OCIP my job was to ensure they could bid on the job, stay on the job, and make sure they stayed compliant with osha and other regs. **** rolls down hill, ask me how I know after having been deposed when a worker was killed or paralyzed or called as an expert witness to defend a company when one of their people suddenly departed from the living. Nothing like a five-hour deposition facing 8 lawyers firing questions at you about every possible nit-picking safety issue looking to find fault somewhere and with some one. Then answer questions by the deceased's spouse or kids looking for some way to understand why their next of kin is laying in a refrigerated locker. Look up attorneys then look up safety engineers and you'll find an odd imbalance with availability.

 

[vintage chromoly]

I've been a commercial industrial electrician for close to 25 years now.
There isn't a job in town that doesn't have several layers of safety protocol. That includes an onsite safety person.

The days of cowboy jobsites are gone here in Ohio, unless you are working on residential or very small jobs.

I see it as a positive thing as it keeps out untrained and unqualified people.

I like to go home after work as opposed to not.

 

[Bb70charger500]

When I was working the safety clown came threw the shop and wrote us up for everything out elc outlets went orange. There were small cracks in the floor! The walls were a bit dirty (out side shop area) our over hang had surface rust on it . Stuff like this! I no lie took a can of orange spray paint plugged something into the outlets and spray bombed them and the walls around them even the conduit leading to them just in case right in front of him. Took out a roll of duck tap and covered the cracks in the cement. Then got on the lift genie and spray painted just the rust spots in orange of course the shop manager was rolling in his office when the safety guy said I was making fun of him I also played a circus theme song when he walked in !

 

[Brandy]

When I was working the safety clown came threw the shop and wrote us up for everything out elc outlets went orange. There were small cracks in the floor! The walls were a bit dirty (out side shop area) our over hang had surface rust on it . Stuff like this! I no lie took a can of orange spray paint plugged something into the outlets and spray bombed them and the walls around them even the conduit leading to them just in case right in front of him. Took out a roll of duck tap and covered the cracks in the cement. Then got on the lift genie and spray painted just the rust spots in orange of course the shop manager was rolling in his office when the safety guy said I was making fun of him I also played a circus theme song when he walked in !

Are you sure we are not related?

 

[Kern Dog]

I've been one of those clowns (self-employed) you mention on some large projects and had worked in the trenches for years aside from years of education/certifications at my expense to be able to do this work and add more time and money to stay valid certification-wise. Hired by contractors required by GC's under OCIP my job was to ensure they could bid on the job, stay on the job, and make sure they stayed compliant with osha and other regs. **** rolls down hill, ask me how I know after having been deposed when a worker was killed or paralyzed or called as an expert witness to defend a company when one of their people suddenly departed from the living. Nothing like a five-hour deposition facing 8 lawyers firing questions at you about every possible nit-picking safety issue looking to find fault somewhere and with some one. Then answer questions by the deceased's spouse or kids looking for some way to understand why their next of kin is laying in a refrigerated locker. Look up attorneys then look up safety engineers and you'll find an odd imbalance with availability.

I do understand that there are cases where flagrant violations do occur. I am speaking of situations where the "monitor" literally picks on the most inane things.
* Leaning a step ladder instead of opening it up: If it is not safe to lean a 6 foot step ladder against a wall for use, why is it ok to use an extension ladder the same way?
* Safety Orange or yellow shirts: If high visibility is the goal, why are white shirts not allowed? Nothing on our job is white so a white shirt stands out.
* Gloves: Ever try to work with gloves on? You lose dexterity, your hands cramp up, get really sweaty and uncomfortable.
* Hard hats: When working with NOTHING above you? When working indoors alone?
* Harnesses to be used when working over 6 feet from the surface: Harnesses slow the work speed down to a crawl. The cable/rope interferes with power cords, air hoses and the ability to carry lumber. It is FAR more productive to have proper scaffold surrounding the work space.

I am in no hurry to meet my grave. I do not take stupid chances. A qualified employee knows his limitations.An idiot would get hurt while being in a plastic bubble.

 

[Bb70charger500]

Well I'm only 31 born in n.J. you tell me ! My family is very mellow I am not I don't fit in. Also there all scrawny I am like the hulk compared to them all . They hate guns I love guns .....


Daddy?

 

[Brandy]

Well I'm only 31 born in n.J. you tell me ! My family is very mellow I am not I don't fit in. Also there all scrawny I am like the hulk compared to them all . They hate guns I love guns .....


Daddy?

Be at peace my son....Dad.

 

[Kern Dog]

The people that work in "safety enforcement".....Some of them are decent people but some are like building inspectors where they feel that they HAVE to find something just to justify their own job.
A policeman can follow a motorist for 2 minutes and find some alleged violation to cite. The same goes for construction.
We have had guys tell us that household power cord are not acceptable, that the twistlock 3 prong is the only right way. Power cords with a small tear in them have to be discarded? Really? NO repairs are alowed? The cords are double insulated as well.
Like with any other Government intrusion, I could tolerate and comply if they weren't such idiots about it all.
Some safety guys have been really cool. Those guys are rare but I do appreciate them.
" This cord is damaged. Do me a favor....fix it so it looks original and I won't bother you about it again"
" Hey, would you mind trying it THIS way? We don't want to see anyone get hurt"
" I know the regulations sometimes don't seem right but just use common sense about it".
If a person in authority is fair and respectful in their dealings with me, I am very humble and understanding. When they come on the job with a bully attitude, it sets me off immediately and the employer will be the one that suffers the most.

 

[Kern Dog]

 

[Photon440]

At work we were issued high visibility bright orange or yellow gloves to wear in case your brain forgot that you had hands or something. Not allowed to wear the old white cotton gloves any more, nope, you'd get written up for that. It didn't matter if the cottons were bright white while the fluorescent orange ones were black and dirty...

 

[JB400]

I know all about what kern is talking about. Worked in a warehouse as mainenance. What bothered me the most was we had to where hard hat while the supervisers didn't, and they were in the same area. Had to replace skinned up cords, or even power tools because of the same. Spark permit for everything. Stand around two hours waiting for spark permit, because no one would sign it. No one would make a decision, so left after waiting getting spark permit.

 

[Ironbuilt]

When I was still a company driver, all of the trucks had on board cameras. I had a safety "desk jockey" call me one afternoon to tell me that I was following too closely. He proceeded to tell me that I needed to increase my following distance to 7 seconds between me and the car in front of me. That comes from the CDL manual that states, 1 second of traveling distance for every 10 feet in length of your truck. My truck is roughly 65 feet long. I asked him to ping my trucks location and tell me what it said. When he replied "Cross Bronx Expressway, I told him that if he ever called me again I would turn my truck in and quit. Alas, I never received another "safety call".

 

[Brandy]

The Army used to have a gadget called a Tach-o-graph installed on the frequent use trucks like fuel trucks and wreckers. Told them how you were driving, speed, shifts, stops and go's..etc. in the 70's.

 

[Ironbuilt]

The Army used to have a gadget called a Tach-o-graph installed on the frequent use trucks like fuel trucks and wreckers. Told them how you were driving, speed, shifts, stops and go's..etc. in the 70's.

Gotta love that. I am sure that some brass that never drove a truck before was in charge of monitoring it.

 

[Kern Dog]

I asked him to ping my trucks location and tell me what it said. When he replied "Cross Bronx Expressway, I told him that if he ever called me again I would turn my truck in and quit. Alas, I never received another "safety call".

I don't understand. Is there really a "Cross Bronx Expressway" ??