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An inconvenient truth

The continued talk of global warming never ends. Where I live there building 550 Condo units, which will not effect it nor the 1000 cars it will bring into the area. The traffic on Long Island is out of control, but yet they keep building and bring more people to clog the heavily used roads now. The big talk was when they were building Shoreham, a nuclear power generator, that if an emergency existed nobody could get off the Island. We can't get off now, but build we must for why I don't know.
 
Exactly Ron H. The white ice in the north pole repels heat/sun. The ocean is very dark green; almost black.
Does anyone here own a black car or a convertible with black seats? Try touching it in the Arizona sun in July vs. a white car. Then multiply that effect by about 3 trillion a day. And more ice melts...
 
Actually, I think GOD is pissed at us!

Maybe payback for the Cubs winning the Worlds Series a couple years ago??:rofl::rofl:
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My only question is why was it so cold and snowy in 1985, 1993 etc? I'm not disputing the climate might be changing, but the headlines always quote weather from times that are too recent. When it's the coldest, hottest, wettest in 500 years I'll really take notice.
This is a fair question. Normal high-to-low swings in temperature are not that unusual. Weather, tides, ocean currents, snow coverage vs. ground temperature, etc, etc.....there are A LOT of variables that even the best weathermen don't fully understand. Heck, I'm no meteorologist, so I don't fully understand myself.
On the other side of that coin is the very large number of "records" being set for high heat, extreme cold, drought, heavy rain/flooding, etc.....basically "unusual weather" become a statistical thing. In other words, if you're playing roulette & the wheel comes up "00" 3 times in a row, that's unusual. If it comes up "00" 10 times in a row, "statistically" it starts to look like the roulette wheel is "loaded"....not "proof", but very suspicious. We have had a long string of "00"'s. Look at the current Allstate insurance commercial saying we've have 26 "500-year storms" in the last decade....the roulette wheel is starting to look suspicious.
 
The title was a satirical jab at Algore's book on the "global warming crisis". Wouldn't it be ironic if the extra co2 in the air has prevented the next ice age? No matter what, we are entering another solar minimum and it looks like the next few winters are going to be pretty nasty.
Interesting idea...maybe the Earth does need a blanket?
 
Exactly Ron H. The white ice in the north pole repels heat/sun. The ocean is very dark green; almost black.
Does anyone here own a black car or a convertible with black seats? Try touching it in the Arizona sun in July vs. a white car. Then multiply that effect by about 3 trillion a day. And more ice melts...
Imo.....it would take a LOT of black cars and black asphalt to make a difference. And isn't the ice caps getting larger lately? And so far, no one has mentioned what volcanoes are doing to the environment over the last several years....
 
we got dumped on with all that drought/global warming BS
near early record, early levels of the stuff
20" of rain here in the past 2 systems
several 'feets' (4-6ft or more) of snow in higher elevations
passes closed etc.
we got some of the devils dandruff, down here too
but it melted off or was rained away

we needed it too

we had serious rain & snow events both

great for the ski crowd
https://www.onthesnow.com/sierra-nevada/skireport.html
 
The fact that the earth is flat..........is widely agreed upon by scientists around the world.

Was this not the consensus some years back ? My point being a plurality of agreement in and of itself does not science make.
 
Imo.....it would take a LOT of black cars and black asphalt to make a difference. And isn't the ice caps getting larger lately? And so far, no one has mentioned what volcanoes are doing to the environment over the last several years....
True, a few cars here & there won't amount to much. The icecaps have been getting DRAMATICALLY smaller (ain't good). There is a massive crack in the ice in Antarctica with a super-iceberg about the size of Rhode Island that looks like it's about to break off. Very true about volcanoes, but we don't have much control over that.

In my opinion, nuclear energy is the way to go if we can just figure out a way to A) get rid of the waste & B) not nuke ourselves in the process
 
The fact that the earth is flat..........is widely agreed upon by scientists around the world.

Was this not the consensus some years back ? My point being a plurality of agreement in and of itself does not science make.
Very true. The vast majority of scientists in the world "might" be wrong....."maybe".
 
Actually we need "Global Warming" to compensate for the Earth gradually cooling. It's all in Gods plan to even things out, LOL!
 
The vast majority of climate scientists are paid via government grants to reach the conclusion they are supposed to reach. Or else.
 
The continued talk of global warming never ends. Where I live there building 550 Condo units, which will not effect it nor the 1000 cars it will bring into the area. The traffic on Long Island is out of control, but yet they keep building and bring more people to clog the heavily used roads now. The big talk was when they were building Shoreham, a nuclear power generator, that if an emergency existed nobody could get off the Island. We can't get off now, but build we must for why I don't know.
No worries, they are all moving to Florida and clogging up the roads down here.
 
True, a few cars here & there won't amount to much. The icecaps have been getting DRAMATICALLY smaller (ain't good). There is a massive crack in the ice in Antarctica with a super-iceberg about the size of Rhode Island that looks like it's about to break off. Very true about volcanoes, but we don't have much control over that.

In my opinion, nuclear energy is the way to go if we can just figure out a way to A) get rid of the waste & B) not nuke ourselves in the process
Ok, here's a question. How many times over the earth' s history have there been ice caps ? Contrasting, how much of earth' s history have there been NO ice caps at all ?
 
Many scientists disagree with the global warming hypothesis, The IPCC is a fraud, it is in the IPCC mandate itself that whatever reason they come up with that causes global warming HAS to be man made. All the scientists they list on the IPCC roster is not entirely true either.
This video is a bit old, and a bit long, but interesting.



Here's a climatologist testifying about climate gate. Not all scientists agree, it's just what the propaganda says.



I used to believe in global warming, but I was nieve back then and believed what the big news outlets and the government said. I love the environment, that's why the global warming scam sucks.
 
The most compelling thing with me anyway, is the melting ice cap.
Same thing happened in the 1800s and ships got frozen in the north passage. Nothing new there. But no we don't want to talk about that. Like it never happened. I am quite certain fossil fuels were the problem then also.
I am still waiting on the swirl in the toilet to turn counter clock wise. Will we also be blamed for that?
 
The idea that the vast majority of scientists are paid to reach a specific conclusion for climate change is a fake idea. It is propaganda pure and simple.

Some other points raised here are technically true, not pertinent to the present situation with climate and change. The main issue is that the evidence for climate change is overwhelming and the connection to human impact on that change is incredibly strong. I fear it will affect our kids and grandkids in a much more significant way than we think. I wish the people would do something about it, but I think we are track for disaster simply because of greed and money. I also think some people like to argue against climate change just because they don't want it to be right.

I would like to address a few of the points that have been argued so far. The OP implies that climate change is refuted because parts of north America have been colder this fall. The response brought up is that the climate is a whole Earth issue and this is correct. A normal part of climate change is that weather patterns change, and part of the warming might be colder periods in some parts of the world while others end up warming more significantly. Second, someone else asked about how many times Earth had ice. The number of times in Earth's history that significant ice was present can be counted on your two hands. The amount of time is far less than when the Earth was ice free. Does this mean we want it ice free. No, much of that time was also uninhabitable for humans. The point is irrelevant for today's climate argument. Someone else said we need a greenhouse and alluded to the role of orbital forcing. We need a greenhouse to keep the Earth inhabitable, and without it, and taking into account albedo, energy balance gives us an average temperature that is below zero. This also is a only part of the argument. We need a greenhouse to keep us in an inhabitable or better yet a climate where we can thrive. The point about climate change is that the argument is that the greenhouse is being perturbed in such a way that we will suffer consequences and possibly things like economic costs, war, famine, in the limit, extinction.

I apologize for the off the cuff rant, but the issue of fake information, fake news, propaganda is all around us and we should step up and take responsibility and make change for a better, rather than a worse, future.
 
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