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My neighbor found 9 12oz cans of R12 is his workshop. He asked me to see if anyone could use it. He said to make an offer. Located in Tucson.
 
There's gold in those cans. The days of real freon.
 
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I would pay $20 a can.
 
The last 4 or 5 I got given to me. The market is very small for that stuff. Don't pay too much.
 
I sold 10 small containers 10 years ago on ebay. Think I got $55-$60 each for them at that time.
 
Freon® is Duponts' " trademarked name for R-12. Still about the most efficient of the old refrigerants. The thing to use if you are going to go the originals 70's A/C route. The 134 conversions do not work very good with the older designed components. As with anything else, it is worth what the market wil bear. But it was worth more when most of the older cars were still on the road and people did not want to pay the money to convert to the newer refrigerants. The market is generally now only guys that are restoring the 60's and 70's cars and their A/C systems. R12 was made illegal to manufacture in the US by the EPA back in the 80's, but it is legal to posses so don't worry about breaking the law. It is unlawful to vent it to the atmosphere because of "ozone" depletion...
 
R12 was made illegal to manufacture in the US by the EPA back in the 80's, but it is legal to posses so don't worry about breaking the law. It is unlawful to vent it to the atmosphere because of "ozone" depletion...
Yes, it's legal go possess but you can't sell it to anyone who doesn't have the Section 608 Technician Certification.
 
Freon® is Duponts' " trademarked name for R-12. Still about the most efficient of the old refrigerants. The thing to use if you are going to go the originals 70's A/C route. The 134 conversions do not work very good with the older designed components. As with anything else, it is worth what the market wil bear. But it was worth more when most of the older cars were still on the road and people did not want to pay the money to convert to the newer refrigerants. The market is generally now only guys that are restoring the 60's and 70's cars and their A/C systems. R12 was made illegal to manufacture in the US by the EPA back in the 80's, but it is legal to posses so don't worry about breaking the law. It is unlawful to vent it to the atmosphere because of "ozone" depletion...
I've worked in hvac, since 87. It was common for everyone to refer to the refrigerant r 22 as, freon. R 22 was used in residential/ commercial air conditioning systems. The refrigerant r12 was used in automotive systems, but not typically referred to as, freon. At least, not that i ever heard.
 
We always called R12 Freon. Automotive world.
 
We always called R12 Freon. Automotive world.
I ran residential hvac service for decades. Can't count the number of times customers would call and say, my a c don't work. It needs some freon. R12 & r22 are completely different.
 
I ran residential hvac service for decades. Can't count the number of times customers would call and say, my a c don't work. It needs some freon. R12 & r22 are completely different.
Yes, I understand that R12 and 22 are completely different.
Chemours purchased DuPont a few years ago now. Freon was a trademark for numerous products DuPont had at the time.

“Freon (/ˈfriːɒn/ FREE-on) is a registered trademark of The Chemours Company, which uses it for a number of halocarbon products. They are stable, nonflammable, low toxicity[1] gases or liquids which have generally been used as refrigerants and as aerosol propellants. These include the chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) that cause ozone depletion and HCFCs (such as chlorodifluoromethane).[2] Not all refrigerants of this type are labelled as "Freon" since Freon is a brand name for the refrigerants R-12, R-13B1, R-22, R-410A, R-502, and R-503 manufactured by The Chemours Company. The term "freon" is a common descriptor or proprietary eponym (similar to a generic trademark) like "xerox" , "frosted flakes" or "kleenex". It is commonly used when referring to any fluorocarbon refrigerants. The gas-based form of Freon is known to emit a strong chemical smell not unlike that of acetone, or nail polish remover.[3]
 
I've worked in hvac, since 87. It was common for everyone to refer to the refrigerant r 22 as, freon. R 22 was used in residential/ commercial air conditioning systems. The refrigerant r12 was used in automotive systems, but not typically referred to as, freon. At least, not that i ever heard.

Sorry buttttt
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Yes, I understand that R12 and 22 are completely different.
Chemours purchased DuPont a few years ago now. Freon was a trademark for numerous products DuPont had at the time.

“Freon (/ˈfriːɒn/ FREE-on) is a registered trademark of The Chemours Company, which uses it for a number of halocarbon products. They are stable, nonflammable, low toxicity[1] gases or liquids which have generally been used as refrigerants and as aerosol propellants. These include the chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) that cause ozone depletion and HCFCs (such as chlorodifluoromethane).[2] Not all refrigerants of this type are labelled as "Freon" since Freon is a brand name for the refrigerants R-12, R-13B1, R-22, R-410A, R-502, and R-503 manufactured by The Chemours Company. The term "freon" is a common descriptor or proprietary eponym (similar to a generic trademark) like "xerox" , "frosted flakes" or "kleenex". It is commonly used when referring to any fluorocarbon refrigerants. The gas-based form of Freon is known to emit a strong chemical smell not unlike that of acetone, or nail polish remover.[3]
You're correct. I just googled it, and read something similar. I guess what refrigeranrs are commonly called depends on the trade and or area youre in. Like soda or pop.
 
Freon® is Duponts' " trademarked name for R-12. Still about the most efficient of the old refrigerants. The thing to use if you are going to go the originals 70's A/C route. The 134 conversions do not work very good with the older designed components. As with anything else, it is worth what the market wil bear. But it was worth more when most of the older cars were still on the road and people did not want to pay the money to convert to the newer refrigerants. The market is generally now only guys that are restoring the 60's and 70's cars and their A/C systems. R12 was made illegal to manufacture in the US by the EPA back in the 80's, but it is legal to posses so don't worry about breaking the law. It is unlawful to vent it to the atmosphere because of "ozone" depletion...
I stand corrected. Sorry. I guess you CAN teach an ol dog new tricks. :)
 
I am in California. USA Been in automotive since 73 here. Retired Bridgestone/Firestone store manager and IMACA certified in a/c. Freon® has been used generically to describe refrigerant products just like Coke® and Kleenex® are trade marked products used to describe cola and tissue products.
 
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