A few weeks ago, we were putting some finishing touches on my car and a question came up; is there supposed to be an air cleaner name plate/pie tin on my car? Here's the background on my car; it's a '70 GTX, 440-4, N96, automatic. I bought the car in 1983 and it had a 440 Super Commando pie tin on it when I bought it. In the 13 years since the car was new it certainly could have been put on by the previous owner, but I thought it was original.
I didn't know that there was a question about this since every '70 GTX 440-4 that I can recall seeing had a 440 Super Commando pie tin on it. Referring to Dave Wise's assembly book he says that the car is not supposed to have a pie tin on it, it's only supposed to have the yellow Mopar "Do Not Oil" sticker on it. I didn't put too much thought into it figuring possibly Dave made a mistake in the book, besides, I referred to some old pictures that I have, from 1997, of a well-documented, burnt orange survivor '70 GTX that made the show circuit rounds and was in a some Mopar magazines at the time and that car had a pie tin on it. However, that car was a non-air grabber car with a dual snorkel black wrinkle finish air filter housing on it.
Well, the question has been bothering me lately and as fate would have it, I had the privilege last weekend of going to look at a 25,000-mile survivor '70 GTX 440-4, N96, 4 speed car. I've known about the car for a couple of years, and I finally got a chance to go check it out. The story on the car is the current owner is the original owner, he bought the car new in 1970, drove it for 2 years, then parked it and bought a new 1972 GTO which he also drove for 2 years and then parked it. Both cars have hibernated, un-used, since they were parked. The owner is getting up there in years and wants to get the GTX back on the road to enjoy for a little bit, so he started getting it runnable again.
In checking out the GTX I noticed that his car has no pie tin on it and according to him, never had one. Both of our cars were St. louis built cars, if I remember correctly his is an early February SBD car and mine is a February 28 SBD.
So, after that long winded back story here's the question; does anyone have any definitive information on if and when pie tins were used on '70 GTX's. Were all of the GTX's that I've seen in the past wrong? Of the two known survivor cars that I've seen 1 had a pie tin but no air grabber and one didn't have a pie tin and had an air grabber. @69Coronetrt any input? @R413 anyone? Here's a picture of the survivor air cleaner and my air cleaner.
I didn't know that there was a question about this since every '70 GTX 440-4 that I can recall seeing had a 440 Super Commando pie tin on it. Referring to Dave Wise's assembly book he says that the car is not supposed to have a pie tin on it, it's only supposed to have the yellow Mopar "Do Not Oil" sticker on it. I didn't put too much thought into it figuring possibly Dave made a mistake in the book, besides, I referred to some old pictures that I have, from 1997, of a well-documented, burnt orange survivor '70 GTX that made the show circuit rounds and was in a some Mopar magazines at the time and that car had a pie tin on it. However, that car was a non-air grabber car with a dual snorkel black wrinkle finish air filter housing on it.
Well, the question has been bothering me lately and as fate would have it, I had the privilege last weekend of going to look at a 25,000-mile survivor '70 GTX 440-4, N96, 4 speed car. I've known about the car for a couple of years, and I finally got a chance to go check it out. The story on the car is the current owner is the original owner, he bought the car new in 1970, drove it for 2 years, then parked it and bought a new 1972 GTO which he also drove for 2 years and then parked it. Both cars have hibernated, un-used, since they were parked. The owner is getting up there in years and wants to get the GTX back on the road to enjoy for a little bit, so he started getting it runnable again.
In checking out the GTX I noticed that his car has no pie tin on it and according to him, never had one. Both of our cars were St. louis built cars, if I remember correctly his is an early February SBD car and mine is a February 28 SBD.
So, after that long winded back story here's the question; does anyone have any definitive information on if and when pie tins were used on '70 GTX's. Were all of the GTX's that I've seen in the past wrong? Of the two known survivor cars that I've seen 1 had a pie tin but no air grabber and one didn't have a pie tin and had an air grabber. @69Coronetrt any input? @R413 anyone? Here's a picture of the survivor air cleaner and my air cleaner.
