Valuation Ideas On 69 Chargers In The Last 5 Years??

[turbine68rt]

68 Charger R/T located in Oregon

Nice. That car is 60 numbers away from mine on the vin and built the same day.

 

[6PKRTSE]

The prices of these cars are just insane. The Auction houses make it even worse. This hobby has just priced the next Generation's interests right out the window as many just can't afford it to get into. I honestly don't care what they keep selling for as I have never been in it for the money. As I said in an earlier post. I have owned my red R/T S.E. over 32+ years since high school. Including purchasing and everything I have put into it since owning it, I don't have 10,000 into this car to this day. Obviously, still unrestored.

 

[Some Car Guy]

I considered a 70 true rt auto with air car in 2020 Or very early 2021. Was from ca and had never been rusted. Nice car, I couldn’t tell if it was a resto or a driven car with upkeep along the way. Ac was busted though. Price was a 60k ask. I wanted it because it was white and I loved my 68 four speed I had about 20 years ago. I’d say at this point I could have sold it today and made most enough of the way to buy a car like my 69 GTX I ended up with, except with it being white I don’t know if it would’ve gained much. White is a kiss of death color on mopars.

 

[Richard Cranium]

What about the 1971 Charger R/T and Super Bee with its around 7500 beeing built and the equivalent Roadrunners with the "fuselage" or Coke bottle body style (First year of only two with the same sleek look).

Production number of the -71 RR was around 14500 with just shy of 3000 more of the same body in the less childish and more "mature" gentleman´s GTX.

With arguably the last year of the muscle car era with nearly unscathed engine power compared to the top year of 1970 (all brands), but with a sexier look, it seems to me that these 71 b-bodies are quite undervalued compared to the boxy predecessors, especially the case with the Plymouths.

The Mopar 71 B-Bodies never made it to the silver screen as much as their predecessors, and low production numbers does´nt seem to be that big of a factor in the way the market looks at it.

Comparing a 3rd generation Charger to a 2nd generation is like comparing a Superbird to a Charger Daytona.

 

[turbine68rt]

What about the 1971 Charger R/T and Super Bee with its around 7500 beeing built and the equivalent Roadrunners with the "fuselage" or Coke bottle body style (First year of only two with the same sleek look).

Production number of the -71 RR was around 14500 with just shy of 3000 more of the same body in the less childish and more "mature" gentleman´s GTX.

With arguably the last year of the muscle car era with nearly unscathed engine power compared to the top year of 1970 (all brands), but with a sexier look, it seems to me that these 71 b-bodies are quite undervalued compared to the boxy predecessors, especially the case with the Plymouths.

The Mopar 71 B-Bodies never made it to the silver screen as much as their predecessors, and low production numbers does´nt seem to be that big of a factor in the way the market looks at it.

My reply was specifically regarding the values and popularity of 2nd gen Chargers, reflected by the sharp rise in demand when new.

 

[70ChargerRT]

I just wonder if some of you are still living in the past? Have you guys been in the market like me for another Charger? Times have changed and are still changing. What’s funny is the 70 Charger has went up in value more than the 68 and 69. What I’m trying to say it’s not even a close 2nd now. They’re bringing the same frigging money and if not more! Since the Fast and Furious franchise those 70 models have skyrocketed and do you know who is more butt hurt that the 70,s are bringing big money now? Our own Mopar community. I’ve owned mine for 20 years now. I bought it cheap. A lot cheaper than a 68-69 at the time but go buy one now. I never was a fan of the 69 grill, never will be. You know the same guy that designed the 69 grill designed the 71 Charger. I think he was a big Pontiac fan lol.

 

[DeltaV]

I just wonder if some of you are still living in the past? Have you guys been in the market like me for another Charger? Times have changed and are still changing. What’s funny is the 70 Charger has went up in value more than the 68 and 69. What I’m trying to say it’s not even a close 2nd now. They’re bringing the same frigging money and if not more! Since the Fast and Furious franchise those 70 models have skyrocketed and do you know who is more butt hurt that the 70,s are bringing big money now? Our own Mopar community. I’ve owned mine for 20 years now. I bought it cheap. A lot cheaper than a 68-69 at the time but go buy one now. I never was a fan of the 69 grill, never will be. You know the same guy that designed the 69 grill designed the 71 Charger. I think he was a big Pontiac fan lol.

Dodge probably hired him away from Pontiac.

 

[DeltaV]

If someone doesn't like the '69 Charger grille, then get a '69 Charger 500.

If someone doesn't like the '70 Charger chrome loop bumper, then get a '70 Charger Daytona.
or paint the bumper loop body color.

Yeah, the 2nd gen Charger prices are very high. Probably best at this point in time to get a third generation platform with hideaway headlights.

 

[440plus6]

Dam I guess you think the 70 charger just sucks

LOL, Nope, they are very cool, just personally prefer 68-69 Chargers and FF But I wouldn't kick a 70 out of the garage for dripn oil

 

[70SunFun]

I find it hard to believe how the 2nd generation Chargers have really skyrocketed in value. Makes one wonder if the sellers are getting these high asking prices. Now, a person can buy a very nice E body ('70-'71) for the price that some '68-'70 Chargers' owners are asking. I love all Mopars but prefer the E bodies, especially convertibles. If it came to buying a Charger or E body for similar prices, I'd buy the E body hands down. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about them! It's nice to see the Chargers go up in value but most true enthusiasts can no longer afford them, me included.

 

[turbine68rt]

I find it hard to believe how the 2nd generation Chargers have really skyrocketed in value. Makes one wonder if the sellers are getting these high asking prices. Now, a person can buy a very nice E body ('70-'71) for the price that some '68-'70 Chargers' owners are asking. I love all Mopars but prefer the E bodies, especially convertibles. If it came to buying a Charger or E body for similar prices, I'd buy the E body hands down. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about them! It's nice to see the Chargers go up in value but most true enthusiasts can no longer afford them, me included.

Combine 50+ years of diminishing supply for a particular body style that was only produced for 3 years with subsequent generations of people younger than the baby-boomers that also want one, along with the dollar being devalued, and it's not difficult to understand why the prices for these cars are so high.

 

[Kern Dog]

Comparing a 3rd generation Charger to a 2nd generation is like comparing a Superbird to a 1976 Charger Daytona.

Here we go, I altered your post a bit.

 

[Richard Cranium]

 

[fesser]

Yeah, the 2nd gen Charger prices are very high. Probably best at this point in time to get a third generation platform with hideaway headlights.

I agree. Next ones to start bringing crazy money. Don't have one, never have, but I was saying the same thing the other day when talking to a friend about crazy Mopar prices.

 

[RemCharger]

Here we go, I altered your post a bit.

Might be right either way. Them 2nd gen Daytonas are nice!!

 

[68BabyBlue]

Second generation Chargers seem to have entered the realm of the high end Forward Look convertibles (Desoto Adventurer, Chrysler 300 letter cars in particular). Outstanding styling, combined with top of the heap performance during their era. These traits seem to be the ones that cross generations, keeping values high long after the cars are past their driving days.

 

[cruiser]

Wondering what some of your opinions are about your personal perspectives on valuation increases on 69 Chargers percentage wise. No pictures, or models and differences. Just your idea in general of the percentage increases. Thanks

I'll probably be selling my Charger later this spring, so I'm about to find out ("My 1969 Dodge Charger RT/SE" on FBBO).

 

[70SunFun]

Combine 50+ years of diminishing supply for a particular body style that was only produced for 3 years with subsequent generations of people younger than the baby-boomers that also want one, along with the dollar being devalued, and it's not difficult to understand why the prices for these cars are so high.

I have to respectfully disagree. Everything that you said about the 2nd Gen Chargers and your other valid points also hold true for the E body Barracudas and Challengers of '70 and '71 which I put those years in parentheses in my comment. The '70 and '71 E-bodies were produced for only two years (2nd Gen Chargers for three). The market seems to dictate that those two years of E bodies are more desirable and more expensive than the '72-'74 E bodies so I'm not talking about the '72-'74s. From Galen Govier's white books, Chrysler produced approximately 222,000 2nd Gen Chargers for U.S. production and approximately 155,000 total production of '70 and '71 E bodies. So there was much less E bodies produced. I've seen several nicely restored 2nd Gen 318 Chargers advertised with asking prices of $45K and sometimes higher. I've also seen '70-'71 318 E bodies in similar condition that are in that price range but usually lower. Similarly, with condition being about the same, I've seen higher asking prices for Chargers needing restoration than those of E bodies. Same asking prices seem to apply for either group when drive trains are missing. Supply and demand usually holds true for either choice unless someone has a liking to a particular car which can change everything up or down. One can make an argument either way. Comes down to one's taste and what they're willing to pay. The '70 Charger is my favorite of those three years and I'd love to have one if/when the prices go down some but I still prefer the '70-'71 E bodies over them. Just sayin'.

 

[70SunFun]

I'll probably be selling my Charger later this spring, so I'm about to find out ("My 1969 Dodge Charger RT/SE" on FBBO).

Good luck! With the current prices being what they are, you'll probably get your asking price or very near it.

 

[turbine68rt]

I have to respectfully disagree. Everything that you said about the 2nd Gen Chargers and your other valid points also hold true for the E body Barracudas and Challengers of '70 and '71 which I put those years in parentheses in my comment. The '70 and '71 E-bodies were produced for only two years (2nd Gen Chargers for three). The market seems to dictate that those two years of E bodies are more desirable and more expensive than the '72-'74 E bodies so I'm not talking about the '72-'74s. From Galen Govier's white books, Chrysler produced approximately 222,000 2nd Gen Chargers for U.S. production and approximately 155,000 total production of '70 and '71 E bodies. So there was much less E bodies produced. I've seen several nicely restored 2nd Gen 318 Chargers advertised with asking prices of $45K and sometimes higher. I've also seen '70-'71 318 E bodies in similar condition that are in that price range but usually lower. Similarly, with condition being about the same, I've seen higher asking prices for Chargers needing restoration than those of E bodies. Same asking prices seem to apply for either group when drive trains are missing. Supply and demand usually holds true for either choice unless someone has a liking to a particular car which can change everything up or down. One can make an argument either way. Comes down to one's taste and what they're willing to pay. The '70 Charger is my favorite of those three years and I'd love to have one if/when the prices go down some but I still prefer the '70-'71 E bodies over them. Just sayin'.

If you've been involved in this hobby for any length of time, I'm sure you're well aware of the fact that 70-71 E-bodies have enjoyed the spotlight long before 2nd gen Chargers have. I used to go to shows like the Ohio nats since the late 80's when 'Cudas and Challengers were the rockstars and a 68 Charger was just another Charger. There were other factors that choked off the musclecar market after '71. Regardless, the main topic here was regarding values of 2nd gen Chargers.