What's it Worth I need help with a reasonable valuation

[RemCharger]

It's certainly ain't the hottest ticket on the planet right now. That's for sure.

What will help the cause is to explain some of the # s spent. Like the 6800 on trim. And other stuff. Some can't just guess the costs

 

[fakirone]

If I had to buy it the way it is sitting right now I would not offer any more than $10k for it
I am putting together a 70 Charger right now that was completly apart I got from an estate sale
Trying to figure out what parts and bolts and screws go where is not that easy when you did not take it apart
If all the parts are there and nothing more needs to be bought the best thing to happen would be the owner needs to put it back together
There are other $20k projects on the market that would yield more return on the time invested than this car ever would
Sorry to say but someone needs to figure out with this car which way will loose the least amout of cash Press forward to cut it loose now ??

There's $6800 in chrome alone, rebuilt gauge cluster was I think $3k. $10k is funny, but thanks for the response.

 

[fakirone]

I want to start out by saying I am not trying to put you on the spot, but I have a legitimate question.

What would your shop charge to put in the floors, finish the bodywork, paint, and reassemble that car? To me, that would be ground zero. The cost of acquiring the car and parts gets added to that.

The reason I look at it that way is my 68 Coronet project is pretty well stalled because at least in my neck of the woods, bodywork and paint is currently about what my car and parts are worth. Add the two numbers together and I have a car that would be a monetary loss if I sold it upon completion.

We don't paint, but just got a quote on a C10 that needs full in and out, in similar shape regarding prep (but has its floors) for $14k. That's show quality blah blah blah.

Putting the floors in is not that much work. Most have been cut out already and the prep to put them in done.

Reassemble, just depends. But again not really all that much of an ask if you ask me. I'd reassemble that car in my garage with no issues. Considering everything is new or refurbished.

I MUCH prefer putting cars back together than I do tearing them down, cataloging, and all the nonsense to get to the point of reassembly. Reassembly is the fun part.

 

[fakirone]

What will help the cause is to explain some of the # s spent. Like the 6800 on trim. And other stuff. Some can't just guess the costs

I mean I have made it fairly clear that almost everything has been redone, restored, or refurbished. The gauge cluster, completely restored. The grille and headlight assemblies, restored. New glass. New rear end and internals. Console restored. Dash. And and and. Just about everything has been bought new, restored, or refurbished.

When I say put in the floors, paint the car, assemble. I mean it. ‍

 

[fakirone]

Late to the party here, but if he's not selling... why are you asking "what's it worth"??? Who cares, he's already knows what he spent. Now if you can put that car together in less than 200 hours, I'll pay the full price for it! Not a f'n hope in hell, I don't care how many you've put together !

Not sure where I said he's not selling. The car will be for sale, I am trying to see when people think is fair.

At the end of the day it's a wasted post, because with nonsense like $10k answers and people assuming that there's more work needing done, even after my very specifically stating what needs finishing, there's just no reason to keep the discussion.

Thank you for the response though.

 

[fakirone]

Thank you all for your responses, but I think it's time to end the discussion.

Nothing productive is happening here.

Have a great night!

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Thank you all for your responses, but I think it's time to end the discussion.

Nothing productive is happening here.

Have a great night!

You say "Nothing productive is happening here." But in reality you've learned that the car your client chose to invest $70K in might be worth $45K on it's best day once completed... And as you know it only needs another $25K at a bare minimum to get completed....

Paint $14K
Floor installed $1.5K
Assemble and debug car easily $10K

The reality is it's just not a car that most people are willing to fork out big $$$$ for

 

[#41]

There is a certain point on many threads where it is best to vacate because it just becomes a repeating cycle of unproductively and/or shooting off in irrelevant directions. There was a clear consensus on value by the end of page 2.

 

[RR Fan Dan]

When he originally posted the thread I noticed his post count was like 5. So not a member but a lurker, and definitely not a Mopar guy.

This one would be better to start with for the money.

For Sale: 1967 Dodge Charger in Summerville, South Carolina

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[cosgig]

I appreciate your input, but I work at a custom car shop and I am very familiar with how much it costs to restore a car. I just don't know a lot about these cars specifically as far as valuation in the current market.

Value of 66-67 Chargers….

Big block 66-67 complete and ready to run=35k-$40k, depending on 383 or 440

Hemi car running and driving…$70k-$75k

 

[YY1]

The OP doesn't seem to get that "cost" and "value" are not the same thing.

...and in this case, getting 33 cents on the dollar IMO is a win.

If there is $6800 in trim with receipts, that could likely sell for 50 cents on the dollar, listed separately.

The EL dash and headlight assemblies WILL sell separately, and might even fetch close to 75 cents on the dollar.

 

[plymouth67]

I can honestly say if he found someone to put a "show" quality paint job on that car for 14k he had better jump on it!! I do body and paint on the side and have zero overhead and I wouldn't do it for 14k. That is a lot of car to Skim, sand, sand, sand, primer, sand, primer,sand,primer,sand,seal,paint,clear and cut and buff.

 

[Belvedere408]

The more I see this charger the more hours of work it looks like. I'm with the others saying 100s hours of work left.

 

[r4sedan]

I don't think this guy's gonna give up until he here's this car is valued at what a 1970 Challenger is. Unfortunate the customer spent all the money on this ride.

 

[fakirone]

You say "Nothing productive is happening here." But in reality you've learned that the car your client chose to invest $70K in might be worth $45K on it's best day once completed... And as you know it only needs another $25K at a bare minimum to get completed....

Paint $14K
Floor installed $1.5K
Assemble and debug car easily $10K

The reality is it's just not a car that most people are willing to fork out big $$$$ for

I knew it wasn't a popular car.

I wanted a fair valuation, in its current condition, as described by me. What got was a lot of "it"s going to need xyz so it's going to cost more to finish". Or "you should finish it and you will get more". Obviously if it needs more than I claim, then it would be worth less. It would be nice if there were validation numbers that matched what I said it needed, not what someone imagines it will need. Also, I am not going to finish it, the owner is not going to finish it. So every sentence typed stating that it should is a waste. I would MUCH rather spend the time to finish my cars and bikes, and our shop is full of the owners cars and not taking any new vehicles.

I know the car is upside down. As someone mention in a previous response in this thread, most projects are upside down. I know it's not a popular car. I actually kinda like them, but not the point. I know if it was a year later and a Hemi... I know I know.

What I didn't know is what a group of Mopar B Body enthusiast thought a 67 Charger 383 car needing floors, paint, and assembly, with all of the other heavy lifting done and restored, would be worth... and I really didn't get that answer. But, as with the others in this thread, I appreciate your response.

Y'all have a wonderful day.

 

[70 sublime]

I think you did get your answer but just did not like it

Everyone that gave you a number on it has done a car themselves and speak from experience
I paid less than $10k for my 70 Charger with all new amd metal already installed so very much like this car

Good luck finding a new home for it meant in the best way

 

[fakirone]

When he originally posted the thread I noticed his post count was like 5. So not a member but a lurker, and definitely not a Mopar guy.

This one would be better to start with for the money.

http://[URL]https://classiccars.com...-for-sale-in-summerville-south-carolina-29483

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No, not a B Body guy.

I currently own two Mopars. The 1976 New Yorker that I pulled from a field, put in new floors and rebuilt the 440 and the 1968 Dodge A100 Custom Sportsman 318 van that has had a full mechanical restoration and is now getting rust repair and interior work done. I'm the third owner of this Georgia van and I use it to drag my bikes all over the country to shows and camp.

My first "car" was a 1975 Dodge Dart Swinger /6 car like the one pictured (not my car). My first vehicle was a 1975 Ford F100 Ranger. I got the Dart for free because the owner couldn't find anyone to figure out what was wrong with it and she said that if I could get it out of the driveway then I could have it. I popped the hood, fixed the plug wire firing order, and drove it home. That was way back in 1991. I still love that car and am looking for its match.

So yes, I am a Mopar guy, and some Fords. I've never owned a Chevy and can't even recall driving one besides a rental, even though I do like many of their cars. I was laughing to myself about this the other day. We're in the middle of putting a blown 570 into a truck at the shop, and have almost all Mopars there too. Couple Satellites and Road Runners. A Coronet Wagon with a Hellcat Redeye swap. A 70 Challenger with a full tube chassis... lots of fun stuff.

I just haven't had a real reason to post here much previously.

 

[plymouth67]

I knew it wasn't a popular car.

I wanted a fair valuation, in its current condition, as described by me. What got was a lot of "it"s going to need xyz so it's going to cost more to finish". Or "you should finish it and you will get more". Obviously if it needs more than I claim, then it would be worth less. It would be nice if there were validation numbers that matched what I said it needed, not what someone imagines it will need. Also, I am not going to finish it, the owner is not going to finish it. So every sentence typed stating that it should is a waste. I would MUCH rather spend the time to finish my cars and bikes, and our shop is full of the owners cars and not taking any new vehicles.

I know the car is upside down. As someone mention in a previous response in this thread, most projects are upside down. I know it's not a popular car. I actually kinda like them, but not the point. I know if it was a year later and a Hemi... I know I know.

What I didn't know is what a group of Mopar B Body enthusiast thought a 67 Charger 383 car needing floors, paint, and assembly, with all of the other heavy lifting done and restored, would be worth... and I really didn't get that answer. But, as with the others in this thread, I appreciate your response.

Y'all have a wonderful day.

I see lots of responses giving you opinions on what we feel its worth based on your description. The people like myself who have said it needs a lot of work left to be finished are telling you that to explain why we feel it's worth somewhere between 10k and 15k. The heavy lifting is in the body and paint work, it's my guess that is why your shop doesn't do it. There has been no heavy lifting in some dude writing a check to get his trim restored or grille restored. On any car project the heaviest of lifting and the most expensive things are body, paint and drive train, none of which has been done to this car, hence the low value numbers you are receiving from us.

 

[autoxcuda]

You said it had:
-$14k of paint left
-100 hours to resassemble: @$75/hr that’s $7500

You showed a motor that seemed to need rebuilding?
-That’s $4000 (very conservative)

Doing the math, that’s total left = $24,500

Car worth $35K done

That leaves $10,500 to buy it.

 

[SlingLow]

@fakirone I gotta give you credit for reiterating your original question and not getting defensive or getting your panties in a bunch over the various responses. Asking that question is a guaranteed can of worms with all the opinions on this board. I don't have anything to add as I don't buy project cars. Hopefully your friend can recoup as much of his $ as possible and the car goes to someone who will complete and enjoy it. Best of luck to you on your projects.