• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

Welding Helmet

rakort

Well-Known Member
Local time
11:59 PM
Joined
Oct 4, 2014
Messages
695
Reaction score
293
Location
Wisconsin
Took the plunge and ordered a new millermatic 190 yesterday.

Question regarding a helmet...it seems every professional welder I work with does not use an auto darkening helmet. I would think that auto darkening is the way to go? Why then do they prefer a normal / non-auto darkening helmet?

What is everyone using?
 
I have both
1. a PRO doesn't need one as badly as an amateur...
2. I'm not a PRO LOL
(I have to look for my arc)
 
Auto dimming with auto body work is a must IMO. Yea most professional welders do not need an auto and want to minimize arc flash but are they hanging their head up inside a fender well, out of position, trying to flip their helmet down? Maybe not, But I am, so I use a Miller digital elite and it works flawless. Its hard enough to make a perfect weld without trying to flip your helmet down and still keep your place on the panel to be welded. Try welding in MINI TUBS with a flip helmet....
 
X3 on the auto darkening helmet. I cannot express how nice they are to use. I have welded with both and there is no comparison. Good luck and have fun.
 
Now that I'm 58 years old, I had almost given up on welding because of welding hood issues. I tried the flip up helmet with cheater glasses and a cheapo auto-darkening helmet with cheaters. I wanted to sell my welding machines!!!
I just bit the bullet and bought the high end helmet from Lincoln. It has the optional cheater lens built in!! All I can say is that the helmet is so freakin' nice that I bought another mig machine!!!

Scottymac
 
A lot of guys useing "stick" got in the habit of using a regular lense, including myself. When you are useing a "mig" it's so much easier useing an auto so you can see exactly where you're going to start your weld. For "tig" welding a auto is a must.
For tight places and tacking sheet metal you really need the auto. It would take forever tacking with a regular lense not saying how many times you would miss your spot and also having a sore neck from flipping the helmet all the time.
 
Once I got an auto darkening helmet at work (don't remember the model, it was an ESAB) I never looked back. Whether I was laying down 90 feet of weld on a box car or fiddly detail work with custom engineering I loved the auto feature, both MIG and stick.
 
Something else to look for in those helmets is the shading. Some go from 8-13, some only go from 9-11. If you like a darker shade, make sure it goes there. Another nice feature that some have is a shade 5 setting so you can use it to cut with a torch and it won't be too dark.
 
Another note, most auto darkening helmets have a built in solar, battery charger. Works off of natural daylight and even florescent lighting. Don't store it in the dark for extended periods of time because the battery will loose charge. When you go to use it, it won't darken and you'll be waiting on your eyes to come back. Ask me how I know! Lol

(some have a test button, some don't)
 
It seems that in the last few years the auto darkening helmets have come down in price a bit, and most of them are much better than 5-years ago. I have an older Jackson True Sight "Arc Angel" graphic welding helmet which seems to still be their current high end helmet? I bought it on line for around $300, but at the time they had a mail-in rebate for $50 or $60, so it was more like $260 total cost.
It has been a pretty decent helmet for several years, and the batteries seem to last a decent time, but the battery charge indicator usually shows good battery power when they are getting weak, and now when they get weak (I don't recall it doing this when it was newer), the sensitivity seems to get flaky, but that may be partly because the helmet has been banged around alot and I even have a bit of heat damage (melting) in one corner (dang 4G and 6G SMAW.)
 
thanks for the great responses! They were very useful. I have solidified my plan (but not picked out the specific helmet yet).

Brian
 
I like that Hobart and a good price too. Mine only goes down to shade 9 in the weld mode.
 
Yeah i hated welding until I bought an auto-darkening one. Now i look for any excuse to break out my little Lincoln MIG!

I just bought a Harbor Freight one on sale for like $45 and it works great for me.
 
Great thread! I guess i would be considered a "pro" Although i never like to ring my own bell LOL. I am a licensed ABS certified and have passed numerous cert's. Im 64 and still weld constantly,so let me add my 2 cents. I have a jackson auto helmet. I won't go cheap on a auto for several reasons,one of is i don't know how fast they go dark,so you could be flashing yourself without knowing it. The other reason is i doubt the cheap ones will hold up under heavy use. Many of the guys i worked with are excellent welders and do use auto helmets,i don't like them because when I'm done welding and pick up a grinder the sparks make the helmet go dark. Also the shield itself is dark when the lense goes clear. As i get older i find i have to change my clear lenses very often so i can see better and those lenses are expensive on a auto. Still i think they are very helpful in certain areas of welding
Myself i don't use mine,its sitting on a shelf and i doubt it will ever be used. The reason is mainly were your welding. Go to a shipyard/new construction/boilermaker/steamfitter job and you'll see most use a non auto conventional shield. These auto shields don't hold up,have parts that fail and can be difficult to locate. As of now I'm doing a lot of work on a dirty environment, my shield gets dropped,dirty. If it doesn't crack the only thing that breaks after a while is the head gear. At one time i instructed apprentice welders,no auto shield allowed. You learn to focus on where your about to strike a arc,be it stick/tig and flip your shield down.
 
I have a Speedglass & would never go back to the non auto units. As far as "Pro" welders, they disdain wirefeeds also. How smart does that make their opinion look ? Use what's comfortable for you.
 
I don't flip the whole helmet.
I just flip the lens when I'm ready to weld.
Since MIG is what most people use on auto work, I'm not seeing a problem with having a free hand.
I'm more concerned about eye protection and I'm sort of leery about magic lenses.
Right now I'm researching replacement lenses for my helmets.
UV and IR protection are what I'm worried about.
I don't want Chinese lenses.
 
I have a Speedglass & would never go back to the non auto units. As far as "Pro" welders, they disdain wirefeeds also. How smart does that make their opinion look ? Use what's comfortable for you.

No Pro welder i know does not like wire feed and if they do thats because they never used it. Wire feeders have there place and are a God send at times. When i do a truck floor i always try and use a wire feeder if I'm indoors or its not windy.

- - - Updated - - -

A lot of guys i worked with like the Auto when doing TIG. It was especially useful when doing a pipe TIG joint out of position in the field were flipping down your shield while holding the TIG torch in one hand and filler wire in the other. I also liked the AUTO in tight spots
 
C'mon out & I'll introduce you to some. Best quote I heard them say was " Are you a welder, or a monkey pulling a trigger"? I'm with you, Steve.
I'm a wirefeed fan, but these welders at the plant are die-hard stick & Tig guys. We have air, water, & steam pipe erywhere. All that gets rodded.
 
Auto Transport Service
Back
Top