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HP and HP2 what is the difference

In 62 Hoover sourced the industrial blocks for their high nickel content. I'm not sure if at some point all blocks were.
ChryCo used a good mix in their blocks etc. You can tell if something is good by the way it machines. Soft cast iron (Cast Iran) machines with more of a quiet sound than cast iron that's harder. Blocks that do not have a good mix will have sounds like.....well, having imperfections in it....hard spots etc. I've machine LOTS of cast iron over the years and know what a good quality CI sounds like and ChryCo had it!
 
ChryCo used a good mix in their blocks etc. You can tell if something is good by the way it machines. Soft cast iron (Cast Iran) machines with more of a quiet sound than cast iron that's harder. Blocks that do not have a good mix will have sounds like.....well, having imperfections in it....hard spots etc. I've machine LOTS of cast iron over the years and know what a good quality CI sounds like and ChryCo had it!

Very widely acknowledged that Mopar blocks are much harder than normal Bowtie or Blue Oval blocks. You almost never see a major ridge in a high mileage Mopar block. I figure the main reason to bore a BB Mopar block is to get the bore as perfect as possible w/head plate & the exact bore size you want for the pistons. They don't wear like a Chev so you start in a better place. Again HP, HP2, low perf 440 blocks all the same IMHO, except the marine & industrial blocks, ('68 & later passenger car w/frost plug ribs are better than earlier, less like likely to crack between frost plugs).
 
Again HP, HP2, low perf 440 blocks all the same IMHO, except the marine & industrial blocks, ('68 & later passenger car w/frost plug ribs are better than earlier, less like likely to crack between frost plugs).


What's different about marine blocks specially I've got a later style 426w marine engine in my car right now.
 
Very widely acknowledged that Mopar blocks are much harder than normal Bowtie or Blue Oval blocks. You almost never see a major ridge in a high mileage Mopar block. I figure the main reason to bore a BB Mopar block is to get the bore as perfect as possible w/head plate & the exact bore size you want for the pistons. They don't wear like a Chev so you start in a better place. Again HP, HP2, low perf 440 blocks all the same IMHO, except the marine & industrial blocks, ('68 & later passenger car w/frost plug ribs are better than earlier, less like likely to crack between frost plugs).
Back in 1982 I pulled apart 7 440 blocks (ranging from 72-77 all running) till I found one with no ridge at the top. Back then most any engine with 50,000 miles needed to be bored .020 over. Only exception was my (in 1971) 68 GTS 340, blown head gasket at 90,000 and no ridge.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the difference between HP and non HP be a reference to the internals ? Rather than the block itself.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the difference between HP and non HP be a reference to the internals ? Rather than the block itself.

Yes.. Which is why it has long been stated build the block you have, don't worry about an HP stamp unless stamped numbers give you a warm fuzzy feeling.. Cause they won't effect the engine's ability to make power...
 
...unless you are reusing the pistons which could be the difference between a 10:1 and an 8:1 build.
 
...unless you are reusing the pistons which could be the difference between a 10:1 and an 8:1 build.

HP vs non HP is pistons & camshaft for the most part. Rocker arms maybe?
 
I was selling a tunnel ram dual quad intake manifold for a 440,and I offered it to a guy that had a 73 Plymouth Fury,that he said was a former cop car. He told me it wouldn't fit,because his 440 was a special police 440,and it was bigger than the 440 in my 70 Charger R/T that I had the intake on. He said I tried to put an intake manifold from another 440,and it fell into the valley of my engine,so my special police 440 is bigger than your 440! I just walked away laughing knowing that the clown tried to put a low deck B engine manifold,on an RB raised block,and when it didn't fit,he truly believed his 440 was bigger than other 440s!
 
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The difference between a HP and non HP was the cam, carb, exhaust manifolds, the addition of a windage tray and maybe the valve springs.
 
The difference between a HP and non HP was the cam, carb, exhaust manifolds, the addition of a windage tray and maybe the valve springs.

And the distributor, and colder spark plugs.... Valve springs aren't a maybe...
 
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is that 1971?

1 full point of compression between 440-4 and 440-HP
 
I agree Wild. Advertised CR is just that, advertised. Measurement & math tell the ACTUAL CR, very big difference.
 
my point is the HP pistons are higher compression than the non-HP pistons
 
Y’all are over thinking the question. There is only one difference between HP and HP2. The only correct answer is a 2.
 
my point is the HP pistons are higher compression than the non-HP pistons

I understand, I wanted to point out that a person shouldn't consider that number as a true fact, it's an approximation & the HP pistons certainly do have a taller compression distance.
 
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