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Finding a Body Shop for my 70 RR

yup....... I probably have a day on each side getting things to snap in place and lay down perfectly ........

the issues went right up the sail, as it was about 3/16 too wide; if the original part that drops over the edge wasn't rotted, I'd have kept it in place and did a simple butt weld
When Baby Blue got fitted with an OEM quarter in the late 70s, that's exactly what the shop did. Even original factory replacement panels weren't perfect.
 
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Ho's charge reasonable prices. You're a **** !

If you ever watched Legendary Motor Cars ten years or so ago, it was their sheet metal guy who did my 69 RR metalwork - he was out on his own by then. He fucked up virtually everything he touched. The front end was so bad it all had to be cut off, new stuff bought and re-installed. To his credit, he could probably hand-form just about anything BUT he absolutely sucked at fitting panels !! Not only was his final price 50% more than his original quote (nothing extra done), but it cost me roughly 9k to have the front end redone.

I may be a ****, but I never jacked anyone an extra 50% to F their car up....... so there is that :)
 
I have found it extremely difficult to find a body shop to work with. I am in the processes of pulling my engine for a rebuild and then will strip down the car (interior, dash, etc.). I do not have the space, tool or experience to do the body and paint work so I need to find a shop around the Pittsburgh PA area, or would deliver the car to a shop if I can find the right one. I have spoken with a few shops and they give me their hourly rate with no idea on total cost. I do completely understand that a quote can't be given until you dig into the car but some sort of ballpark would be helpful based on a similar build the shop would have done. For example I had one shop tell me that the cost could range from 20k-150k. Well there is a point at which I would not use the shop or even be interested in restoring my car. I also do now know how people can hand over their car with absolutely no idea on what they are going to spend. I have money to spend on the work but am not an open checkbook.

Has anybody had a similar experience?

I am not in a rush and I want to find the right shop that can give me an original restoration. I want the car to be as original as possible and I plan to enjoy and drive the car.

Thanks,
Drew
I can help. Shoot me a PM. I think you'll like what u hear. Take care
 
I have had a resto shop for the last 40 years. On average a full rotisserie restoration can take about 2000 labor hours. Some nice rust free southwest cars have taken less. This is not counting the drivetrain rebuilding. Paint is 2K a gallon for PPG Deltron system (is one of the best, in my opinion). I just paid $900 for a box of weatherstrips. Gets expensive fast.
 
I have had a resto shop for the last 40 years. On average a full rotisserie restoration can take about 2000 labor hours. Some nice rust free southwest cars have taken less. This is not counting the drivetrain rebuilding. Paint is 2K a gallon for PPG Deltron system (is one of the best, in my opinion). I just paid $900 for a box of weatherstrips. Gets expensive fast.
I also own a professional restoration shop and have hesitated to comment on this thread as most people have absolutely no clue what is required to do this work the right way.

These cars have to be to high standards not just for cosmetics but also for safety.

You may want to reconsider taking your car to “ back your Bob” running with no insurance, no business license, painting in a home made booth (fire hazard), etc. he is cheap for a reason!

The reason for this is these old cars have to be reconstructed properly. Welds need to be right and proper penetration. I have seen multiple “restored” cars over the years where the welds were too cold and would fail in an accident causing serious issues or death to the occupants.

You are spot on as far as time required. It is at least 700-1000 hours to do some metal work and paint.

Just the cutting, buffing and polishing can easily eat up 100-200 hours for a showcar. Yes a month to buff your car.

Al full restoration to National judged standards like MCACN can EASILY eat up 2000-3000 hours, if not more!

I can hear everyone saying “but I don’t need a high end showcar I just want a nice driver/local showcar”.

My reply to this is that it is basically the same amount of work to properly do the metalwork, paint prep and paint on a nice driver or showcar. The main difference is in the time to do the showcar cut and buff. Basically everything else takes the same amount of time.

Whoever you chose make sure they are a real legit shop with insurance, professional equipment and the experience to do the job to factory specifications.
 
I have had a resto shop for the last 40 years. On average a full rotisserie restoration can take about 2000 labor hours. Some nice rust free southwest cars have taken less. This is not counting the drivetrain rebuilding. Paint is 2K a gallon for PPG Deltron system (is one of the best, in my opinion). I just paid $900 for a box of weatherstrips. Gets expensive fast.
2k a gallon?? Does it paint itself.
 
2k a gallon?? Does it paint itself.
That is just for the base coat. The sealer, activator, clear, reducer, will add another 4k at the minimum for PPG products.

The last complete restoration we did the supplies charges were close to 11k and that was BEFORE the price increases this year and the tariff costs.

The days of 10k quality paint jobs are over.

If you want cheap take it to Maaco and deal with the paint fading in a couple years
 
I also own a professional restoration shop and have hesitated to comment on this thread as most people have absolutely no clue what is required to do this work the right way.
Totally agree. 20 years ago a quality shop would require a $25,000 deposit just to get started.Yes these are old cars but don't come with yesteryear prices.
 
I can hear everyone saying “but I don’t need a high end showcar I just want a nice driver/local showcar”.

My reply to this is that it is basically the same amount of work to properly do the metalwork, paint prep and paint on a nice driver or showcar. The main difference is in the time to do the showcar cut and buff. Basically everything else takes the same amount of time.
Every customer I've had that said "I don't want a show car" my reply was, Yes you do or you wouldn't have come here. And, sorry I can't do substandard work.
 
I completely understand that.. my name goes on it you get what I do or move along.
 
I calculated just over 5K for supplies..... welding gas, grinding wheels, epoxy, sound deadner, sandpaper, fillers, base, clear, ect on this 67, and I went overboard...... I need to start factoring a little for electric; tons of welding here.......... I suppose a better business man would mark it up to 8K

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