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Bergman PS box (Borgeson) and Lares PS box on a 66 Hemi?

What he said.
It's more effort than what I took out. Over powered oe stuff. Additionally, I replaced all of the steering and suspension components, so there is most likely some additional effort just from that. The effort is less than the r&p unit in my 04 Cummins dually, but that doesn't help you most likely. The tech lady was beyond helpful. I asked her about fitment of the unit, especially pertaining to headers. She said if you have stock exhaust, you're fine. Headers, you're on your own. I have Hedman's on the wagon, installed by PO. #3 and #5 had to get thumped. 3 for the box, 5 for the coupler. I also put in a new pump from them which worked out as I had to drop the box in from the top. Took the battery and tray/braces out, pump out, #1 plug out. Pulled the motor mount through bolt on the left side, put a screw jack under the pan rail to tilt it up a little, bingo. From below, no way unless I removed the header. Then I would have had to deal with coolant leaks with the iron head 440. I picked the lesser of the two evils. Along with the box, you need the inlet fitting, which does not come with the box due to differences in years/fitting sizes. If you go on Rock, go to the steering section for your car, hit that and look for "Power Steering End Fitting". Thats the fitting you need for the pressure line. I also installed a filter inline, out of the steering box, followed by a cooler which then heads back to the pump. Also the tech gal told me that Bouchillon has been using the Lares units for some time. Might be an additional info source for you. If you go to Fall Fling, I'll be there with the wagon. You can check it out hands on.
How did you handle the cooler on the high-pressure hose, did you have to use some crimped fittings?
 
If the Lares unit is a direct bolt in for a fair price, I can see the appeal. I bought the Borgeson because I wanted better feel than any rebuilt original and the weight savings is great. I look to shed weight where I can with the car.
Not with me, personally. I like food.
The cooler usually goes in the return line…
 
The filter and cooler are on the return side of the box. Ran new hose off the box to the filter, under the battery tray, then to the cooler which is on the horizontal hood latch/grille support[ just behind the grille for best airflow], then hose from it to the pump.
The Lares unit is a direct bolt in. You just need the appropriate inlet fitting for your application. Like they mentioned, if you have headers, you're on your own for fitment. Stock exhaust, no problem. I would like the weight savings too, but it's less costly for me to lose it than the car. But my main deal was bang for the buck. The 65 has a different purpose intended for it. Have a BAC unit for that.
 
I have the BAC unit for my 65. Haven't used it yet, car is back burnered for awhile. I was going to do the same for the wagon. Kept hearing about the Lares unit here on the forum. Checked the price difference and it was less. Emailed Lares to get some info, then made the buy. I'm watching my expenditures on the wagon, so trying to get the best bang for the buck. Also the 11033 unit has a little faster ratio than the stocker. 11043 faster still. Happy with it so far.

So you have the 11033, correct? What ratio is it?

What ratio is the 11043? Is it the same exterior-wise?
 
Can't find the ratio, of course, on the 11033. Its 3.5 turns L-L. 11043 does show, on Rock, 10:1 ratio and 2.5 L-L. Same look on the outside for both.
 
Can't find the ratio, of course, on the 11033. Its 3.5 turns L-L. 11043 does show, on Rock, 10:1 ratio and 2.5 L-L. Same look on the outside for both.

Stock is 3.6 turn L-L.

10:1 ratio is really quick. The T/A's with optional quick ratio are 12.7:1.

And I've heard someone that has restored many T/A-AAR and 100's of Mopar say it was a little too quick for his preference with stock suspension. Even more so with Bias Ply tires.

Just one person opinion. But 10:1 might be pushing it. I'm not sure many OE sports cars even have 10:1.

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Porsche's steering ratio varies significantly between models, often featuring a variable, or progressive ratio, which becomes faster (lower ratio number) the more the wheel is turned, for example, changing from 17.15:1 to 13.12:1. Some models incorporate rear-axle steering to adjust the steering ratio and turning circle, while high-performance models may use specialized components like a 911 RS Crown Wheel and Pinion with a 8:35 ratio for a significantly quicker response.
 
The Borgeson is 14 to 1 with 3 1/2 turns.
A stock Mopar unit was 15.7 to 1 with almost the same amount of turns. That is strange. Add Fast Ratio arms and the ratio changes to the mid 12s with 2 3/4 turns. I find it hard to believe that any aftermarket steering box would be made with a 10 to 1 ratio. That has to be an error.
 
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