1964 Plymouth sport fury

[jtkaaa07]

Guy's I can't find any info on how to decode my vin tag in the drivers side door jam. I am new to early B bodies and bought a super clean 64 sport fury 426 wedge 4 speed car last fall for next to nothing that is completely stripped down to a very clean rust free shell. I have all the parts to put it together and am trying to get a fender tag made for the car so it can be decoded . My question is, are there stampings anywhere on the body that match with the vin tag in the door jamb? I have a 68 dart GTS, and a 69 GTS and I know they stamped the 68 on the core support, and trunk lid drivers side drip rail. Just wondering if the early cars had stampings anywhere? Enclosed is a pic of the vin tag can anybody help me with this

Thanks
Jeff

 

[khryslerkid]

http://www.tpocr.com/plymouthvin2.html

 

[early2drsedan]

there are so numbers stamped on the core support and package self that are on the fender tag also the vin tags where spot welded to the body not riveted on

 

[Centerline]

I agree. The vin tag should not have rivets. With no fender tag and questionable vin mounting I'm not sure you'll ever be able to prove it was a factory 426/4 speed car. That could be one reason you were able to pick it up so "cheap".

 

[moparsteve636]

Numbers should be stamped in the package tray and in the ds trunk drip rail! The 64 cars I don't think had numbers on the core support! The 65s did have them!

 

[Centerline]

Numbers should be stamped in the package tray and in the ds trunk drip rail! The 64 cars I don't think had numbers on the core support! The 65s did have them!

The numbers you're referring to will be the SO or Shipping Order number and will not correlate to the VIN tag.... other than to prove those parts have never been replaced. The SO numbers will be of no use to the OP unless he has the fender tag or the broadcast sheet, and based on his post I believe he has neither.

Bottom line is without the broadcast sheet or the fender tag, he can't prove much of anything other than its a '64 Plymouth.

 

[64 Post]

OP, You can try sending the VIN to Chrysler Historical and hope they have the IBM card on file. Then you can use the card to option the car as built and get a replacement fender tag from one of the vendors.

ETA: However, if the IBM card with your VIN comes back with a SO that differs from the two (package tray and core support) on your car, then you'll know the VIN has been switched. Then things get a little dicey...

 

[dartforforty]

Numbers should be stamped in the package tray and in the ds trunk drip rail! The 64 cars I don't think had numbers on the core support! The 65s did have them!

My 64 Belvedere had a SO number on the core support and package tray.

 

[khryslerkid]

Guy's I can't find any info on how to decode my vin tag in the drivers side door jam. I am new to early B bodies and bought a super clean 64 sport fury 426 wedge 4 speed car last fall for next to nothing that is completely stripped down to a very clean rust free shell. I have all the parts to put it together and am trying to get a fender tag made for the car so it can be decoded . My question is, are there stampings anywhere on the body that match with the vin tag in the door jamb? I have a 68 dart GTS, and a 69 GTS and I know they stamped the 68 on the core support, and trunk lid drivers side drip rail. Just wondering if the early cars had stampings anywhere? Enclosed is a pic of the vin tag can anybody help me with this

Thanks
Jeff

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So what did the vin # turn up? We can't read your numbers in the pic.

If it says it was a 6 cylinder car, then you know it's not right. Even the plant where it was manufactured might tell if it was a max or not.

 

[jtkaaa07]

Ok, got it figured out, Chrysler historical does have the numbers. I sent them the copy of the title, and the DMV put an extra 7 on the end of the vin, so that was the problem. So now I have to go get the title fixed. Chrysler historical is doing a build sheet for me right now, and then Galen can do the fender tag. The vin tag was removed for media blasting and put back on with rivets, I have a picture of it before and after. The car is not a max wedge for sure, but I am told it was a 426 4 speed street wedge car. This car was in the same family it's whole life, and the owner passed away last year, we got it from his bother who was in charge of the estate. I did find the SO numbers on the core support and will get this all square away soon. Motor just came back from machine shop and is ready to rock. I will post pic's as we go. Thanks for the help guy's!!

This is a picture of the car right now, absolutley rot free car with enough trim to build 2 cars lol! The other picture is what the original color was, there is still paint up under the dash.

Jeff

 

[jtkaaa07]

So what did the vin # turn up? We can't read your numbers in the pic.

Sorry, I misquoted in my above statement, Chrysler historical society is doing a broadcast sheet for us, not a build sheet. They have the vin on file, but there were 11 digits instead of 10 , that was the hangup. I say we because I partnered with a friend on the car, we brought back over 60 cars from this gentleman’s estate, and took this in trade for transporting the vehicles back to the estate owners brothers house. We have less then $4000 into the cost of transportation, so we’re not too worried if it’s not a numbers matching car. My buddy just wanted to get the car documented for his own piece of mind. The engine builder noticed the are notches in the top of the bores on the center cylinders on each side and told us to look into what this car is. Like I said earlier I’m an A body guy, and don’t have a whole lot of knowledge on these early B bodies so forgive me for the lack of knowledge

 

[64 Post]

Jeff,
Some food for thought: Yes, it might be just a lowly 426 street wedge car.

But... there was a member here that bought a 64 Dodge 440 a year or so ago believing it was a max wedge based on the 09 engine code. After a few guys here looked at the fender tag and SO, and noticed its 'late' production, it was correctly identified as a Hemi Charger, aka a steel nose Hemi hardtop. One of only 2 known to exist.

Someone here can run your VIN through Darrell Davis' 64 Max wedge and Hemi books to rule it out as a 'special' car.

Lastly, IIRC, there were 2 max wedge SF's built very near the final month of '64 production. The build date falls way outside of normal max wedge production by about 5 months. I don't remember if they were aluminum front cars.

 

[jtkaaa07]

Vin is 3441174330 if anyone can run that through that book

 

[coloradodave]

Vin is 3441174330 if anyone can run that through that book

Your VIN is NOT listed in Darrell Davis' book.

 

[moparsteve636]

If there are notches in the center bores it is a max wedge block! The street wedges did not have them! It is possible some one put them in it! What is the casting number and also what is stamped in the pad behind the water pump housing!
according to the serial number it is a Sport Fury model, that was built at the lynch Rd. plant. Nothing else is given in the vin tag numbers! Hope this helps

 

[64 Post]

If there are notches in the center bores it is a max wedge block! The street wedges did not have them! It is possible some one put them in it! What is the casting number and also what is stamped in the pad behind the water pump housing!
according to the serial number it is a Sport Fury model, that was built at the lynch Rd. plant. Nothing else is given in the vin tag numbers! Hope this helps

True to an extent. If the VIN is in one of DD's books EVERYTHING can be known about the car's build and options.

 

[jtkaaa07]

If there are notches in the center bores it is a max wedge block! The street wedges did not have them! It is possible some one put them in it! What is the casting number and also what is stamped in the pad behind the water pump housing!
according to the serial number it is a Sport Fury model, that was built at the lynch Rd. plant. Nothing else is given in the vin tag numbers! Hope this helps

From what I can find online on the max wedge websites it’s not a max wedge , I’m guessing someone added them to the block. I’ll get the casting numbers on Sunday when I get home.

 

[67 WS23]

Your VIN is NOT listed in Darrell Davis' book.

Do you know if VIN No. 3231138087 is listed in the Darrell Davis max wedge serial number books? It's a 63 Belvedere. Per the max wedge 'dot' com website VIN lookup it is a V8 car built at Lynch road but that's all the info they offer. The DD books are as rare as hen's teeth, so if you (or anyone here) have any info to offer I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks, John L.