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  1. 69Coronetrt

    69Coronetrt Well-Known Member

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    No one said it wasn't a popular color. I'm not embracing the reason (support for the VN war) of your proposition. Why would people, especially young people, buy cars of a certain color to support a war that was not popular? Again, are blue cars due to Air Force? Is the distribution of green cars approximately the same for Canada sold cars?

    Why was green still prevelent after the VN war?

    If colors were purchased to "show support for our country" wars, wouldn't one would expect to find more red, white and blue cars in the early 90's and through the 2000s?


    Please provide links to either Chrysler marketing documents or other supporting information that support your premise.
     
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    Colors & styles come & go and run they run their natural course as was the case with the color green. It was popular then and it isn't now. It's really that simple. For the past few years, silver & gray have beeen the most popular colors & now white has overtaken those shades. Is that supposed to mean something? Of course not.
     
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      69Coronetrt Well-Known Member

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      Yes, it means we do not have to look at God awful avacodo appliances anymore.
       
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      So if it wasn't a popular war why was everyone wearing green Vietnam army jackets as everyday clothing? i'm curious to know what your age is because I remember it very vividly and people were going out buying green cars to show support of their country.
       
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      If you want to debate whether or not VN was a popular war that people supported, that's another thread. The public sentiment during and after the VN War is widely documented. I'm hopeful you do not need my input on that.

      I was born in '58. I was 9 when MLK was shot, 10 when Bobby Kennedy was shot. Watched the 68 Democratic riots on TV. Watched the riots in Prague and France. Watched a lot of protests on TV. Had a cousin (Class of '66) flying medivac choppers in VN during that era. Had a cousin in law (Class of '64) serving aboard the Enterprise. My family was directly interested in what was going on. For a 10 year old kid, I was fairly aware of the war and the public sentiment at the time.

      My background is in sales and marketing of products for public consumption. I have never heard of an unpopular war being the basis for the color of a car. And, IMHO, cannot for the life of me think of why a car company, conservative by nature, out to sell a product, would link itself in that way to a mass produced product. I would not recommend that strategy.

      If, as you propose, the color green was sold and purchased by the public as support for the VN war, then why do we not see more '66 and '67's in greens when support for the war was higher than in later years? (Gulf of Tonkin incident in early '65. Tet offensive in '68)

      Why do we still see a prevelence of greens after American involvement (say post 73?). Is it your position that a public that was tired of the conflict and 'just wanted out' after the Watergate scandal and the disgracing resignation of a president was still buying green cars to support the returning troops on which they were spitting?

      If buying green was to support he troops, why were the shades of green changed year to year? Wouldn't just one green be associated with the cause so buyers could let the world know of their support via a rolling beacon of light? Wouldn't there be a green more closer to OD green? Are you proposing that people that opposed the war never bought a green car?

      Again, are you attributing blue cars to show support of the Air Force? Were gold cars to show support of the Marines? If green was for the Army, then, logically, blue must be to show support for the Air Force and Gold cars for the Marines.

      Is it your position that protestors of the war were wearing Army fatigues to show support of a war they were protesting? Mode of dress goes to a different topic: how each generation of youth expresses themselves through clothing.

      Please present any supporting documentation from any car company or soruce for your position. The reasoning by Sales and Marketing departments would be fascinating. I'd love to learn more.

      The topic was color of cars. Colors of cars are chosen for one reason (as stated above). They were the colors that people wanted to buy whether it was from GM, Ford, Mopar, AMC or Citroen. Tastes change over time. During the later 60's and into the 70's, customers happened to like green cars. Whether the VN war was going on or not had little, if any, bearing on what the public tastes were during the time. Two tone cars were popular in the 50's and early 60's. By 69...not so much so car makers stopped offering two tone cars. Green cars were popular then. Now, not so much. Times change. Tastes change.
       
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      It WAS a popular color but it was across the board age wise and was not specific to Mopar it was industry wide. Dealers stocked more cars in the color of green and any other color. 1000s of 4 doors and wagons were sold in green as well. It had absolutely nothing to do with the war.

      Mopar began offering brighter colors in 1969 for the younger buyers and in fact all of the original sales bank 440-6 cars of 1969 were SUPPOSED to be painted in the 4 colors I posted above but that changed when there were production delays of the cars. They amped the colors up in 1970 with the new hipo colors. They were not as popular as we think today as I can remember many young hipo buyers commenting that they would not be caught dead in a pink or purple car. Most of the hipo cars that were sold in those colors was because the dealers ordered them in those colors because the factory was pushing those colors at the dealer new car showing and Mopar and AMC were the ONLY manufacturers offering this wild colors. Young people did not like to wait 4 weeks to order a car in their favorite color and would buy what the dealer had in stock.
       
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      Is the Bee between the rally green and butterscotch one F3? Man it looks good!
       
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      I think that car represents a less than perfect F6 paint job. I've only seen one F3 Lift off Bee and that car is under resto.
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        Does anyone have a pic of an original R-6 (scorch red) M code Super Bee?
         
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        That is not a common color on A12 Bees. It may be hard to find one. Here's a breakdown of A12 colors by known cars.

        http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1226070955/105
         
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        I think your confusing Viet Nam with Irac. I returned from Nam in March of 69 .... and believe me .... That war and anything to do with it was not popular, or was getting support. I learned fast not to admit I had been in Viet Nam to avoid the scorn shown to vets then. Not like the Irac vets today.

        And green army jackets were warm, cheap and plentyful. A hippys delight.

        Green became a trend in 69 and 70, that, thankfully, went away

        I got home on March 10, 69 and had my A12 Roadrunner ordered within a week. I agonoized over the color and ended up checking the T5 box. There was never any question of color avaliability.
         
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        the guy who ordered my 69.5 FE 5 frost green RR left for Vietnam 3.5 weeks after getting delivery of his car and ordered this colort to support the army and the USA.this was late 69. he returned in 1973 and after the war,he had absolutely no interest in the car.it sat till 1995 with 1147 miles.
         
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