Air Cleaner Hose & PCV Hose - Vendors

[The Rebel]

Looking to get the correct hoses and wondering who has the best prices out there. Were these hoses also date stamped like spark plug wires?

 

[moparnation74]

You can purchase both from Frank Badalson. His shipping will be cheaper and he has the correct style hoses.
PCV hose is still up for debate....Some were dated, some had yellow or white stamping and some had none....No one agrees one one.....The air breather hose is not dated it is plain and is ribbed....

If you are going to dress the car completely with original parts than spend the coin and get the correct hose but if it is a collage of parts just get hose that fits. Then remove the lettering on the aftermarket hose.

The stamping on the reproduction hose will rub off btw so be careful when detailing the car....

http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/FileStream.aspx?FileID=1

 

[69bfan]

There is some debate on if the PCV hose was stenciled. Looking at the survivor cars, you will typically find that 69 and earlier cars may not have been stenciled or it has rubbed off or faded out through the years. Also the texture is unique in that some of this hose, that the reinforcement structure is externally visible. We print a January 1969 and 1970 date coded hose. There is also a July 1968, July 1969, July 1970 and July 1971 date coded hose as well. We also offer a Gates stenciled hose with all of the logos, but no date code. Power steering return hose is also available in a date coded format as well. We have date codes from May 1968 to January 1972 available. Heater hose with the correct markings and date codes are available as well for the 1966 to 1974 applications. If anyone has any original dated 65 and earlier heater hose, I would love to be able to reproduce those as well. Radiator hoses are not date coded and reproductions vary in appearance from the production line pieces. We are doing some work on the radiator hoses and are finding that the over the counter hoses were different from the assembly line pieces in respect to markings and texture.
Prices are pretty close from vendor to vendor, so I would suggest that you deal with the ones that your most comfortable with. The other alternative is stencil your own hose. It is doable and you can get good results with some practice. There are several guys that are doing them as well in a under the table type of dealing. Due to logos and such, the hoses that we do are licensed through Chrysler to meet their standards. The hose that is used is either a Gates or Goodyear hose depending upon application.
Hope that this answers some of the questions.

 

[dadsbee]

Here was my comparison of PVC hose in my thread. 11/32" PVC/booster hose I removed from days of old (slightly bigger O/D than repro) that had white lettering that I over cleaned off over the years (if you look closely you can see it, letters are only ~ 1/4" high!), the Gates date coded (Jan '69) hose from Year One and the same date coded hose I got from National Moparts (which I believe gets it from Frank)

And a shot of my ribbed breather hose. I'm missing the correct quick clamps.

 

[69bfan]

Dadsbee, which correct clamps are you referring to that your missing. We include clamps with the heater hose and power steering hose that we supply to all of the vendors listed above. The PCV / brake booster hose is not provided with a clamp. We have found that the brake booster hose could have been found without a clamp or with a corbin style clamp and some after 1970 used the style as found on some fuel hose and power steering hose. Those clamps are readily available, would need to know which style your looking for.
We do the fuel line and power steering hose in a white ink. I have not seen an assembly line PCV / brake booster hose in white ink except for the over the counter replacement hose. I am not saying that it does not exist, but we try to mimic what is the most common that we have found.
I was talking to a friend at the Indy show earlier in the month and he was relating stories on over the counter parts. He was a retired zone manager from Chrysler and has a lots of insight into the dealings back in the day. His knowledge just goes to document what little we do know from cars and parts that are approaching 50 years old.

 

[dadsbee]

Was only referring to the fact that my breather hose doesn't have any clamps on it. From numerous pictures I've seen I thought it should have the flat band corbin clamps on it, but just makes it a PITA pulling the air cleaner assembly so I didn't bother. Hopefully you say they were never there as OE !!

On my vacuum booster hose I have the "heater hose" style corbin clamps on it. That is how mine has been since at least 1978 (that's as far back as I can remember, when I was 16). I can only assume that was OE, but could have been someone's tinkering.

BTW.. if you supply both YO and National Moparts, why is the Font different and spacing different on the same year code Gates hose?

 

[69bfan]

National Moparts buys through us and Year One has multiple vendors. I believe that both samples came from us though. Like with any stamping, your first stamping of the day when the stencil is cleaner, your results are more defined. It appears that the top yellow hose, the characters are bit taller and fatter due to the ink creeping slightly. The actual defined style of the different characters exhibit the same profile. When the hose is printed, the actual date code stencil is all that we have to swap out between say a 69 and a 70 run. Also, we have several different stenciling blocks that were machined years ago, so that there may be a slight difference in character size.
In regards to the breather hose, I understand your feelings. I know on my 69 GTX with the fresh air hood, I used the flat style corbin clamp next to the oil filler cap and no clamp next the the air cleaner nipple.

 

[The Rebel]

Thanks Guys! I'm looking to make the car look like it did back when it rolled off the assembly line, so I'm looking for date coded correct parts. As my car was built 1/22/68, the engine was assembled in 67 making the spark plug wires dated 3-67. Right now I'm just going to tackle the air cleaner & PCV Valve Hoses. I'll work on the other hoses at a later date.

That being the case are we all saying that there were no date coded hoses in 67?

 

[The Rebel]

These are the hoses currently that are on the car. I seriously doubt these are original but thought I'd post anyhow. The PCV is 3/8" while the air cleaner is 5/8"

 

[toolmanmike]

Give Roy and Jamie a call if you don't find what you want on their site. http://www.megapartsusa.com/search.asp