Bellhousing ID help

[mrbone]

I purchased this Bellhousing to use on my run stand, but a standard starter will not bolt up. The flywheel that came with it measures 16” across. What is it and which starter do I need? THANKS

 

[59pwrwgn]

View attachment 1948387View attachment 1948388I purchased this Bellhousing to use on my run stand, but a standard starter will not bolt up. The flywheel that came with it measures 16” across. What is it and which starter do I need? THANKS

Bellhousing ID

Note the differences in the bolt patter in D odge power wagon bell-housings , On Left is the later after 1956 up with a larger center hole and On The Right Early 1955 back all WWII & all...

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[59pwrwgn]

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will post. I believe this bell was use for industrial engines like the 361 and 413. It differs from the 67-68 light duty BB bell found in trucks. Flywheel is about 186 teeth and used a 13 inch clutch. Starter is a two bolt that differ from the car type. 361 flywheel should be 6 bolt but the 361 I think has an extended crank so I'm not sure if when bolted to a car engine a starter will work. 413s are supposed to be 8 bolt flywheels with standard offset.
I've seen posts about people asking questions about using this bell but don't remember conclusive answers. I once had a small block big bell and flywheel. I have wondered if that flywheel, your bell and a 413 starter would work?

 

[mrbone]

Interestingly the 16” flywheel bolted up to my 6 bolt crank. I thought it looked larger, but only realized when I attempted to bolt on a mini starter, it wasn’t even close.

 

[59pwrwgn]

Interestingly the 16” flywheel bolted up to my 6 bolt crank. I thought it looked larger, but only realized when I attempted to bolt on a mini starter, it wasn’t even close.

I think there are 2 flywheel sizes for that era of trucks, 172 teeth in light duty trucks and 186? Tooth in industrial, large trucks. Your flywheel may be the right diameter but the starter nose depth and gear pitch is probably wrong. In the mid 70s I read Chrysler came out with a new industrial BB bell in the 70s it was set up for mechanical on the left and hydraulic on the right. It used a 154 tooth flywheel and took the car starter.