Better use some good ear plugs
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Only way NASCAR will regain a footing is to take it back from the Jap-a-nese & to actually build the hot rods off PRODUCTION cars again the way God intended. Now it's purpose built race cars & their purpose is to handle like ****. Lost interest in that crap 40 years ago.
Oh yeah, keep the cars loud because wtf wants to hear millennials talk about their bowel movements??
Oh yeah, keep the cars loud because wtf wants to hear millennials talk about their bowel movements??
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If it matters its lots quieter in the infield and way more fun. Just buy better tickets.
I quit NASCAR when Toyota entered.
I got spoiled watching races in the 60's- 70's in SoCal.
Favorite was:
WINGED CARS IN THE ESSES AT RIVERSIDE!
My dad always got seats at the end of them.
I was at this,
I got spoiled watching races in the 60's- 70's in SoCal.
Favorite was:
WINGED CARS IN THE ESSES AT RIVERSIDE!
My dad always got seats at the end of them.
I was at this,
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Didn't NHRA experiment with this in California years ago. People complaining about noise. That's when the Supercomp classes discovered that a muffler on the header increased horse power. They're still useing them.
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How do you quite the road noise of cars averaging 180 and engines turning 8k plus?
They want to "tune the sound so it's just right".
The first 3 sentences explained it all. The noise upsets "sensitive millenials." Now I'm disgusted.
Again.
The first 3 sentences explained it all. The noise upsets "sensitive millenials." Now I'm disgusted.
Again.
And give everyone a trophy too.
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Yep¡! The road courses are so much more exciting than the ovals.
I would love to see a shoot out of Aero cars ( I dug the Talledaga Torino's & Cyclones too) v/s contemporary NASCARs with their 800 hp on road courses. I think the Aero cars would have the advantage with half the power. Imagine a wing car with 800 hp!!
Interesting to note that the first ever lap average on a closed course to break 200 mph was Buddy Baker in a Daytona in 69. Not Formula, not Indy, not Can Am.
GT-40's were hitting 220 on the Mulsanne straight at Le Mans in 1966, but lap average was a best of 138 mph.
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How are sensitive millenials getting to the track?
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LMAO.....I'm a participant.
The pantywaist derby
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LMAO!!
I never watched it because by the time I became interested in cars the time of running modified production cars was already gone. I don't get the brand loyalty when it comes to NASCAR "Chevy kicked some butt" ummmm ... no a 100% purpose built racecar beat the other 100% purpose built race cars! Where's the fun in watching that, restrictor plate here, body template there...
Imagine the anticipation if NASCAR still raced production based cars with the Demon's release!!
Imagine the anticipation if NASCAR still raced production based cars with the Demon's release!!
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NASCAR body has only been around for what possibly 10 years.
The standardized body makes tech inspection much simpler. No longer required to have templets for each brand and body style on the track.
It would have been real intresting to see what HP cars would look like today if the 500 car rule still applied.
I am with the king tho put modern tire on the old unrestricted Birds and Daytona's would the new cars stand a chance?
The standardized body makes tech inspection much simpler. No longer required to have templets for each brand and body style on the track.
It would have been real intresting to see what HP cars would look like today if the 500 car rule still applied.
I am with the king tho put modern tire on the old unrestricted Birds and Daytona's would the new cars stand a chance?
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I always wondered if my bracket car's engine noise at it's 1,200 rpm idle speed (forged TRW pistons, solid lifters, fenderwell headers, unsilenced air cleaner) was equal to or more than the exhaust note (dual exhaust with circa 1975 original style turbo mufflers exiting at rear axle).
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I saw the Firecracker 400 in 1985 at Daytona, my pulse rate was super high during the entire race. I have lost interest in NASCAR since all the changes.
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I love it when people move into an area that's close to
an existing track & then complain about the noise...
When that track has been there for decades in many cases !!
Those people are idiots, some far more than others too !!
IMO it's all the busy body, limp-wristed, participation trophy
weak & feckless generation & a-typical inner-shitty BS agendas...
I lost most my real interest, when they started letting Toyota's
run in NASCAR, screw the rules & made an exception for them
{& in the NHRA for that fact} or when Dodge/Plymouth isn't in
any of the races anymore...
Now they race 4dr cars sedans, dressed as 2 drs,
instead of the org. 2 dr coupes & cars that never had or
will ever have homologation rules like they had some 30+ years ago now
where the car had to be produced in so many #'s by the mfgr.
& the engine combo had to meet that criteria also...
BUT;
they'd just screw over/make special rules
for the Mopars, like they always did/do anyway...
The time they went away form the "sort of"
OE off the showroom looks of the cars, you could actually buy on Monday
{albeit the cars on the track were far from stock either}
It was a far better representation of what Detroit was all about
now it's globalist lefty BS, the cookie cutter cars, to fit everyone's criteria...
Boring !!
Seriously watered it down, it's not what NASCAR was, it's a shell of
what it once was, what it was all about, innovation, tuning & real drivers
but it makes billions more off the changes, TV sponsors,
Good Year having all the exclusive tire rights etc.,
at-least they are EFI now...
IMO it's all about lining the France Family's pockets anyway...
an existing track & then complain about the noise...
When that track has been there for decades in many cases !!
Those people are idiots, some far more than others too !!
IMO it's all the busy body, limp-wristed, participation trophy
weak & feckless generation & a-typical inner-shitty BS agendas...
I lost most my real interest, when they started letting Toyota's
run in NASCAR, screw the rules & made an exception for them
{& in the NHRA for that fact} or when Dodge/Plymouth isn't in
any of the races anymore...
Now they race 4dr cars sedans, dressed as 2 drs,
instead of the org. 2 dr coupes & cars that never had or
will ever have homologation rules like they had some 30+ years ago now
where the car had to be produced in so many #'s by the mfgr.
& the engine combo had to meet that criteria also...
BUT;
they'd just screw over/make special rules
for the Mopars, like they always did/do anyway...
The time they went away form the "sort of"
OE off the showroom looks of the cars, you could actually buy on Monday
{albeit the cars on the track were far from stock either}
It was a far better representation of what Detroit was all about
now it's globalist lefty BS, the cookie cutter cars, to fit everyone's criteria...
Boring !!
Seriously watered it down, it's not what NASCAR was, it's a shell of
what it once was, what it was all about, innovation, tuning & real drivers
but it makes billions more off the changes, TV sponsors,
Good Year having all the exclusive tire rights etc.,
at-least they are EFI now...
IMO it's all about lining the France Family's pockets anyway...
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