Did the suck-butts gimme the wrong build sheet.....

1968 -1970 Mopars

  1. bandit67

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    Ok, here is the vin tag from my 68 GTX and here is the build sheet I removed from the rear seat of the one owner car. Only the first several digits match as you can see. My car IS Frost blue, WU2, and this build sheet appears to be for a QQ1 car.....is that the way you guys see it. I am assuming that the blue seats were the same used in both car color choices and somebody got the sheets switched on build day....yours opinions....

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      Not uncommon. A friend had 3 build sheets in his Challenger none for his car.
       
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        "Suck-Butts"? Naughty way to talk about our old Mopar factory assemblers......
         
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          Yep..

          Extremely common.
           
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            To err is human, it takes a computer and a idiot to fuck things up!!!!!!!
             
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            • bandit67

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              Mopar factory assemblers.....I was thinking those folks were pretty use to following PROCEDURES as best as the engineers laid them out . I figured it was a secretary from the typing pool placing the paperwork in place that committed this screw up.....and yes, this one effects Me.....ha ha

              SO, since I am not fond of Frost Blue as the color, can I get a pass if I go back with QQ1....
               
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              Another possibility is that "John", from the paint shop, ordered a car for himself and walked down the assembly line talking to his Union buddies as his car was built. Hey man, help me out with that option, I'll buy you a beer.
               
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              I have an early build 69 Charger and when I bought it the build sheet was still stuck in the back seat
              Thought oh wow I have a neat piece of paper to go with my car
              Get the sheet out and the VIN on the paper was off by a couple numbers from a car just before mine
              I still have the fender tag on my car and the other car was an exact twin to mine Q5 colour 383 auto etc ....

              Just the way it goes sometimes
               
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              It is my understanding that at the factory a pile of seats with the same upholstery are by the assembly line, so if a seat section is found to be defective, instead of taking the damaged upholstery off and install a new one and then put it back in the car, a new seat section with the same upholstery was grabbed off the pile. This prevented the line from slowing down and therefore caused an incorrect buildsheet to be in a car it wasn't meant for. If you notice it should have the same interior code and color.
               
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                Not uncommon. In my 69 Charger, I found one build sheet in the back seat bottom that was not for my car and one in the back seat backrest that was. The only common thread between the two cars was that both had green interiors.
                 
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                Thanks, I think I see what you mean , that they may have grabbed anothers seats and stuck in my car as it was moving along instead of somebody just sticking the wrong sheet in the wrong car. My build sheet is in pretty crappy shape so not sure I can tell if those seats are the same for my fender tag. Mine has the blue seats, blue headliner and blue carpet....medium blue I think. If a QQ1 exterior was ordered , I think my all blue interior was an option also. In ordering repo seat covers, there is only one blue choice for a 68 GTX car. Good info, thanks all.....
                 
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                I'm absolutely sure the line workers knew by a cursory glance, what interior was called for, and simply grabbed the nearest one that matched what their copy of the sheet called for. MUCH faster than taking time to read the sheet stuffed in the seat springs, possibly several times.
                 
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                Ditto on my '70 GTX.
                 
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                I found 3 different build sheets in my 1970 Charger R/T Special Edition, which I ordered new in late 1969. The first two were in ~1977 (one on top of the steering column under the dash and one under the rear seat bottom springs) and neither had the correct VIN. In 2016, when I was putting it back on the road, I (thank God!) found one with the CORRECT VIN on it in the springs of the rear seat back and it matched the fender tag, which is great for provenance documents to prove originality.

                I’ve been told by three of the top Mopar muscle car history experts that this is very common. A VIN specific build sheet is attached to each major component for each VIN build rolling down the assembly line. Those components are sent to the appropriate assembly location at the appropriate time. Once the component arrives at its assembly point, it’s VIN specific building sheet’s job is done. A VIN specific master build sheet accompanying that specific VIN vehicle and just calls for specifically required components, for example, CXRA bucket seats; it doesn’t care which VIN is on the CXRA bucket seats. It’s just about having right number of CXRA bucket seats with the at the right time. The specific VIN didn’t matter, just the properties. Sucks sometimes, but that’s the way it was. Haunt all the appropriate forums for possible locations. Good hunting, gentlemen (and ladies)!

                BTW, just for grins, the CXRA bucket seats installed in my car were all vinyl covered, not the leather ones specified for the Special Edition. That sucks, too…
                 
              • bandit67

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                thanks chrisrod1, that helps me understand the process much better. Parts were pulled and set for said car at said times per the vin build sheet but not required to be used at actual assembly time. I heard a Chevy historian say that GM would upgrade an engine choice to keep the line moving if they were out of the build sheet coded choice. Ever hear if Mopar did that on any options. I assume leather seats WOULD have been an upgrade over vinyls on your original vin build sheet...
                 
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