gear vendors overdrive? what ya think?

[Supershafts]

68RR you'll love it, especially once you get used to it and get it down, you'll see how splitting the other gears makes it all the better.

 

[440ronnie67]

know your gear and rpm, no need for speedo. problem solved...

 

[SureGrip]

Is putting in a Keisler 6-speed manual out of the question?

I thought a bolt-in kit for their system was around $3,000-$4,000.

 

[tallhair]

My 69 RR is a 4 speed but I am looking into getting the GV OD. I plan on some long distance touring and even with 3.23 rear am still turning near 3000 RPM at 70 - 75 MPH and getting around 12 MPG. I'm not looking to lite up the tires and I do not like cruising at 3000 RPM for hours on end and better mileage wouldn't hurt a thing. The 3.23 ratio works well for my driving around town. I get my satisfaction in miles between fillups and don't worry about recovering the cost of the OD unit. I'll recover that cost in pleasurable cruising.

Yes............I am old.

That IS hilarious Grabbin! Nice one Chickenman

 

[themechanic]

Hey, Tallhair.

I was wondering about how much time we save going ten MPH faster on trips until I found this:



"I tried an experment with my 2004 Dodge Dakota 4X4 crew cab a few weeks ago... On a trip I made, I drove 100 miles at 65 MPH, then filled up the tank and drove another 100 miles at 75 MPH. At 65 I was getting 16 miles to the gallon. At 75 I was getting just over 14 MPG. I'm not a math whiz, and maybe I've got some of this wrong, but it convinced me to slow down a bit on the highway.

Here's the numbers...

100 Miles @ 65 MPH = 1.5 hours
100 miles @ 75 MPH = 1.3 hours

Time lost at lower speed = .2 hours (12 minutes)

100 miles @ 16 MPG = 6.25 gallons
100 miles @ 14 MPG = 7.14 gallons

Fuel saved at lower speed = .89 gallons

Money saved = $2.67 per 100 miles (gasoline at $3.00 per gallon)"

 

[Photon440]

So...you save $2.67 but it costs 12 minutes. What's your time worth?

With about a .48 cd, the high drag is likely responsible for those numbers. A slipperier body would allow travel at higher speeds before losing mileage. The 5 speed neons that I used to have gave me the best economy between 70-75 mph. I believe a 1970 road runner has about a .45 cd, so...not that streamlined either. However I've seen .28 and .29 listed for the superbird...

 

[tallhair]

Hey, Tallhair.

I was wondering about how much time we save going ten MPH faster on trips until I found this:



"I tried an experment with my 2004 Dodge Dakota 4X4 crew cab a few weeks ago... On a trip I made, I drove 100 miles at 65 MPH, then filled up the tank and drove another 100 miles at 75 MPH. At 65 I was getting 16 miles to the gallon. At 75 I was getting just over 14 MPG. I'm not a math whiz, and maybe I've got some of this wrong, but it convinced me to slow down a bit on the highway.

Here's the numbers...

100 Miles @ 65 MPH = 1.5 hours
100 miles @ 75 MPH = 1.3 hours

Time lost at lower speed = .2 hours (12 minutes)

100 miles @ 16 MPG = 6.25 gallons
100 miles @ 14 MPG = 7.14 gallons

Fuel saved at lower speed = .89 gallons

Money saved = $2.67 per 100 miles (gasoline at $3.00 per gallon)"

Nice one mechanic and this comment does not pertain to cost savings on gasoline however it can pertain to tickets and accidents. I've always told my children and my wife, since I taught her to drive, if you drive within the speed limit on short trips on regular roads, or longer trips on highways or interstates you will get there only shortly after or the same time (based on stop lights, accidents, congestion, etc etc) as the speedy speed demon trying to pass everyone on the road. This is true in town as well as the interstate as i regularly see the same drivers on a long trip over and over again who speed past me then get caught up in traffic or lights or whatever later down the road.

Much less costly and much safer in time, money for gas, tickets, accidents, car repairs and car insurance in the short and long run.

I love to drive a powerful car and love the exhilaration of speed but in controlled situations and in certain circumstances.

Carry on

 

[Supershafts]

Hey, Tallhair.

I was wondering about how much time we save going ten MPH faster on trips until I found this:



"I tried an experment with my 2004 Dodge Dakota 4X4 crew cab a few weeks ago... On a trip I made, I drove 100 miles at 65 MPH, then filled up the tank and drove another 100 miles at 75 MPH. At 65 I was getting 16 miles to the gallon. At 75 I was getting just over 14 MPG. I'm not a math whiz, and maybe I've got some of this wrong, but it convinced me to slow down a bit on the highway.

Here's the numbers...

100 Miles @ 65 MPH = 1.5 hours
100 miles @ 75 MPH = 1.3 hours

Time lost at lower speed = .2 hours (12 minutes)

100 miles @ 16 MPG = 6.25 gallons
100 miles @ 14 MPG = 7.14 gallons

Fuel saved at lower speed = .89 gallons

Money saved = $2.67 per 100 miles (gasoline at $3.00 per gallon)"

Little things done to that truck can up the MPG hugely, i have a Dak also, some little things done and i get 28mpg keeping my rpm to 2100/2300 which is where my motor makes its best efficiency but puts me @ 70/73, 3.73, e/fan, al shaft, higher tire psi, blocked grill, open tail gate or covered completely, all that will get you 10+ mpg

Nice one mechanic and this comment does not pertain to cost savings on gasoline however it can pertain to tickets and accidents. I've always told my children and my wife, since I taught her to drive, if you drive within the speed limit on short trips on regular roads, or longer trips on highways or interstates you will get there only shortly after or the same time (based on stop lights, accidents, congestion, etc etc) as the speedy speed demon trying to pass everyone on the road. This is true in town as well as the interstate as i regularly see the same drivers on a long trip over and over again who speed past me then get caught up in traffic or lights or whatever later down the road.

Much less costly and much safer in time, money for gas, tickets, accidents, car repairs and car insurance in the short and long run.

I love to drive a powerful car and love the exhilaration of speed but in controlled situations and in certain circumstances.

Carry on

Thats so untrue, I have been SPEEDING since 17, have 0 accidents, i still drive the same today.

People not paying attention and NOT driving have accidents, you gave your kids terrible advice.

You should tell your kids to DRIVE and not operate or mind a steering wheel. The problem are people just get a license and mind a steering wheel and have no clue how to drive.

Would you throw your kid on the line of the NY jets offense, but you throw them in a car, it's the same damn thing, not everyone can be on that line, not everyone belongs in a car.

.

 

[tallhair]

Thats so untrue, I have been SPEEDING since 17, have 0 accidents, i still drive the same today.

People not paying attention and NOT driving have accidents, you gave your kids terrible advice.

You should tell your kids to DRIVE and not operate or mind a steering wheel. The problem are people just get a license and mind a steering wheel and have no clue how to drive.

Would you throw your kid on the line of the NY jets offense, but you throw them in a car, it's the same damn thing, not everyone can be on that line, not everyone belongs in a car.

.

No wonder no one likes you

 

[Supershafts]

No wonder no one likes you

Well atleast i don't put my kids in a dangerous situation using poor advice, funny how every accident i see is from no attention and not speed, or lack of actual DRIVING...... but become the road hazard/obstacle.
I could care less about being liked.. Im not here to be liked, only to give factual, correct info for people with problems that aren't getting the right answers.
As done even here, truth sucks to hear, but alas its true, not everyone should be driving, and or atleast be heavily schooled on it.
,

 

[HYRDGOON]

2 things to add here

1) If you drive with a GPS a lot (as I do) you can tell with varying speeds the arrival time barely changes

2) You need to drive with traffic.. don't impede traffic and don't push your way through traffic... both of those are a hazard

 

[tallhair]

Well atleast i don't put my kids in a dangerous situation using poor advice, funny how every accident i see is from no attention and not speed, or lack of actual DRIVING...... but become the road hazard/obstacle.
I could care less about being liked.. Im not here to be liked, only to give factual, correct info for people with problems that aren't getting the right answers.
As done even here, truth sucks to hear, but alas its true, not everyone should be driving, and or atleast be heavily schooled on it.
,

I have no idea why you are going off on this rant other than that's the type of opinionated half-cocked person you are but my comment was about one aspect of driving and was a specific pointed response to something themechanic said that I quoted in my response.

I didn't say I taught my wife or children "THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE IS DRIVING THE EXACT SPEED LIMIT AT ALL COST AND ALL THE TIME" but that's what you seem to be assuming.

You WILL get there at almost the same time if not faster by driving Reasonably (w/o ticket or accident) by going the speed limit or as HYDROGOON points out going with the flow versus being a speed demon. I didn't mean for it to turn into a debate so I didn't get into the finer points on my initial comment

You will almost certainly have less or no tickets by the practice I advocate and most sensible people follow or at least acknowledge that to be true over the long term

You will have lower insurance rates than if you drive more than a little faster than the speed limit or the flow of traffic, especially if your drive like you post on here supershafts .. like an arrogant and opinionated know it all who has the balls to tell someone what you did with the smallest scrap information from quick post on the internet

Geesh


regarding the truth .. from you .. there is no 'truth to hear' because you know almost nothing about me and have no idea what all I have told anyone I've taught to drive or anything else in this situation so you have no truth for me to hear.

btw

You can't handle the truth!! I would rather you just said "thank you", and went on your way. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think or the crap you are spewing. Col. Nathan R. Jessup

 

[68gtx]

Is putting in a Keisler 6-speed manual out of the question?

I thought a bolt-in kit for their system was around $3,000-$4,000.

i got a $6000.00 quote ffrom them and I believe there is a major floor mod needed

 

[Supershafts]

I have no idea why you are going off on this rant other than that's the type of opinionated half-cocked person you are but my comment was about one aspect of driving and was a specific pointed response to something themechanic said that I quoted in my response.

I didn't say I taught my wife or children "THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE IS DRIVING THE EXACT SPEED LIMIT AT ALL COST AND ALL THE TIME" but that's what you seem to be assuming.

You WILL get there at almost the same time if not faster by driving Reasonably (w/o ticket or accident) by going the speed limit or as HYDROGOON points out going with the flow versus being a speed demon. I didn't mean for it to turn into a debate so I didn't get into the finer points on my initial comment

You will almost certainly have less or no tickets by the practice I advocate and most sensible people follow or at least acknowledge that to be true over the long term

You will have lower insurance rates than if you drive more than a little faster than the speed limit or the flow of traffic, especially if your drive like you post on here supershafts .. like an arrogant and opinionated know it all who has the balls to tell someone what you did with the smallest scrap information from quick post on the internet

Geesh


regarding the truth .. from you .. there is no 'truth to hear' because you know almost nothing about me and have no idea what all I have told anyone I've taught to drive or anything else in this situation so you have no truth for me to hear.

btw

You can't handle the truth!! I would rather you just said "thank you", and went on your way. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think or the crap you are spewing. Col. Nathan R. Jessup

v
Going off on a rant.... really, if that is a rant then please do go on....

You made the statement that said speed is accidents/costly and blah blah blah... yet thats not true, i speed , no accidents, live in NY where ins rates are retarded have several registered insured vehicles and a com vehicle and pay under 2000 for 4 of them, and 2 are full covered.
So speeding isn't the problem why you have accidents or more costly insurance... LACK of ability to drive is.

.

 

[Kern Dog]

Since we branched off topic a bit, I'll give you an opinion that is worth what you will pay for it:
I drive fast. Fuel economy? Well it is sorta important but I'd prefer to spend less time following someone like a comatose drone. I see people on the Freeway every day that drift to the left lane like a pre-programmed robot, then stay there with ZERO regard for anyone else on the road. The self appointed traffic monitors must think that if they are doing the speed limit, they are under no obligation to move over. The law reads otherwise. Slower traffic must move over.
I can count on finding at least 3 people per week that want to "shadow" me on the freeway. By this I mean they will keep in my blind spot on either side while I speed up or slow down. I'll have similar types tailgate me in middle lanes. I speed up or slow down and they stay there. Why? Are they just mindless idiots that feel the need to be near other people?
I am the guy you see that often has to pass the "left lane hogs" by merging to the right or middle lane. I do not ride the bumper of the slow left laners. I am not a follower. I have seen time and time again where one or two moves can open up to a wide open lane where I have the freedom to get to a comfortable speed. Driving skills will trump "driving at the posted speed limit" every time. An incompetent person is much more dangerous at 55 than a skilled driver at 90.
Not pointing fingers here. People need to know that it is more than knowing the rules that makes for a good driver.

 

[Dennis H]

Got it Greg. Same here. The Coronet feels just right at about 75. I rely on Valentine one to keep me out of jail. You should see the morons in San Jose on the 87 freeway. Take 2 weeks off in April and we can enjoy some triple digits on the way to Van Nuys, then on to Las Vegas via 66.

Also, lots of Chevy guys at a car show today seemed unfamiliar with gear vendors. I thought it was a Chevy thing. When we get peeved at 100 with the TKO, just drop it into fourth and go.

 

[Kern Dog]

The Chevy guys may not be as aware about the Gear Vendors unit because they are blessed with 2 decent overdrive transmissions that fit their cars without cutting. The 200-4R and the 700R4 are actually decent transmissions.

 

[Supershafts]

Dennis the gm camp has 3 options of trans that bolt in, whereas you have one option that doesn't require electronics.

 

[Johnfrmtx]

I put one behind my 64 cross ram Hemi with a big cam and 4:56 Dana, it is a 4 spd. cam doesn't like me below 2k, so this makes the car drivable around town and tolerable on the highway with 28" tall tires. Not sure about your tunnel but never could massage mine enough with a sledge and torch for it to clear (speedometer drive wasn't the problem) had to cut the tunnel - should have done that first to say time and make it neater. I love the unit, I put the switch on the ball (you don't have enough feet with a stick to put it on the floor) use the clutch on up shifts and down, it hits hard! Have fun with it!

 

[Blown 67 coronet]

I have it in my car, with 410 rear , I don't split gears because trans gear ratios are about perfect. car rips and so nice to keep rev's down when cruising on the highway. Have a 3000 stall converter... no problems. they will rebuild , but they don't sell parts.