Hopefully Trump Deports Them All!

[MarPar]

But Mar, think of it..that must be a 3 or 4 body trunk!..???

minimum! could probably get 5-6 if you try hard enough, if ya know wadda i mean...

 

[khryslerkid]

I can remember hearing about and then seeing one of the first 70 Hemi Cudas bringing one million dollars! That brought a whole new perspective to the Classic Car Market. Why so much money? Because they can, and someone will pay it. Life goes on.

I get what Bru is saying. It's almost along the same lines of not seeing any Mopars on these shows at all. I get tired of all the attention to Chevrolet and Ford. Mainly Chevrolet. Perhaps the larger viewing audience is Chevy orientated, cheaper parts, their sponsors donations go farther buying Chevy parts. Might have something to do with them useing the E bodies. Parts are a little cheaper or more readily available than that of a B body?

 

[polywideblock]

love b bodies but as I said before I'd take a FC7 71 cuda or 70 T/A any day I like them all must be one of those moparholic's

 

[Bladecutter]

love b bodies but as I said before I'd take a FC7 71 cuda or 70 T/A any day I like them all must be one of those moparholic's

Poncho?? 69 1/2 T/A is one of my more favorite shorts!

 

[GTXperience]

Oh God! 71 Cudas... Talking to E body fans is like talking to Chicago Bears fans. One always mentions the 71 Cuda and one always mentions the 86 Bears. Why? Because those are about all they have to brag about. Everything else is pretty mundane.

Not for all. Until now, I have never mentioned my 71 here (no need since it's a b-body forum) and I believe have only referenced it on FEBO only in my intro many years ago. Maybe I don't fit the stereotype (at least I hope not) since I cross over the platform borders.

 

[Gpuller]

Watching Bitchin rides last night and they showed a short review of the season. they were working on a 66-67 B-body. Looking forward to that.

 

[GTXperience]

I got to play around with a 440 Challenger for a few days in 77, but I never wrang it out sideways,,,just pounds on it in straight lines, but no balls out clutch dumping nor seed shifts. I believe been told that the E bods shorter wheelbases are sqirrelier in butt than B bods. All my 318 B's were very predictable cars, lots of warning when they wanted to break, nothing sudden. So if tomorrow I could have my choice, I'd take a B over an E in a heartbeat. I think 'Cuda is a very good looking car, much prefer it to Challenger, cleaner sides,,,I don't care for the waist peak line running down sides, like the looks of new gen Challenger because they subtracted that.
I read here someone said E styling cues were taken from Camaro. Javelin/AMX I think are drawn off Camaro, but I think Camaro took a bit from the Goose, which first public appearance was Turin show in 1966.

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We are the original owners of. 72 Jav/AMX and the styling cues (and parts) were all borrowed from other vehicles. Some of the side/rear body lines seem to be GM F-bodyish but the front fenders humps are all Corvette. Hence, the nickname "Humpsters" for the 71-74 models. Mechanically speaking, AMC had to source from other mnfrs/suppliers or they would have been really late to market. On my 72, the TorqueCommand trans is a Mopar Torqueflite, the carb is a Motorcraft, the ignition is Remy/Delco and I believe the brake spindles are GM. It's a crazy mixed up car but we love it.

As for the Goose (which I'm assuming is the car pictured), I see Pantera all over it. Is it a Pantera or at least the same designer?

 

[Bladecutter]

We are the original owners of. 72 Jav/AMX and the styling cues (and parts) were all borrowed from other vehicles. Some of the side/rear body lines seem to be GM F-bodyish but the front fenders humps are all Corvette. Hence, the nickname "Humpsters" for the 71-74 models. Mechanically speaking, AMC had to source from other mnfrs/suppliers or they would have been really late to market. On my 72, the TorqueCommand trans is a Mopar Torqueflite, the carb is a Motorcraft, the ignition is Remy/Delco and I believe the brake spindles are GM. It's a crazy mixed up car but we love it.

As for the Goose (which I'm assuming is the car pictured), I see Pantera all over it. Is it a Pantera or at least the same designer?

Mangusta is forerunner to Pantera, but Pantera was an assy. line car, stamped steel body panels, built into the 90's in different variants. The Goose was hand built, hand beaten alloy panels, & some stamped steel panels.....& only 401 built, 67 - 70.
Suspension is heim located, Girling discs, the ZF box w/ 302(US import like my old one here 8MA-1148),,Euro cars were 289, some of those Webered, ala Shelby.
The Goose Also relied on some outsourced parts...front spindles & ball joints were Fiat 124,, taillights & door buttons were Fiat 850,,etc. My Brother's had a Saab windshield wiper motor & mine had a Ford wiper motor. deTomaso was broke, production budget was thin....car was never wrung out in R & D properly. Spooky butt,,,but all the handling inconsistencies have long since been figured out & not expensive to rectify. 27 & an off the hook party animal,, Spooky was part of the fun!

 

[MarPar]

We are the original owners of. 72 Jav/AMX and the styling cues (and parts) were all borrowed from other vehicles. Some of the side/rear body lines seem to be GM F-bodyish but the front fenders humps are all Corvette. Hence, the nickname "Humpsters" for the 71-74 models. Mechanically speaking, AMC had to source from other mnfrs/suppliers or they would have been really late to market. On my 72, the TorqueCommand trans is a Mopar Torqueflite, the carb is a Motorcraft, the ignition is Remy/Delco and I believe the brake spindles are GM. It's a crazy mixed up car but we love it.

As for the Goose (which I'm assuming is the car pictured), I see Pantera all over it. Is it a Pantera or at least the same designer?

AMC= All Makes Combined

 

[moparnation74]

AMC= All Makes Combined

 

[BeeKool]

We are the original owners of. 72 Jav/AMX and the styling cues (and parts) were all borrowed from other vehicles. Some of the side/rear body lines seem to be GM F-bodyish but the front fenders humps are all Corvette. Hence, the nickname "Humpsters" for the 71-74 models. Mechanically speaking, AMC had to source from other mnfrs/suppliers or they would have been really late to market. On my 72, the TorqueCommand trans is a Mopar Torqueflite, the carb is a Motorcraft, the ignition is Remy/Delco and I believe the brake spindles are GM. It's a crazy mixed up car but we love it.

As for the Goose (which I'm assuming is the car pictured), I see Pantera all over it. Is it a Pantera or at least the same designer?

Thanks for answering a few of the ?s regarding AMC. I always wondered how the 390s and 360s played into their scheme. And how they compare to the same CID engines from other makes.

My first very first car was a 74 Gremlin. I was twelve and drove that car around the farm like a stock car. Even better than the L6 under the hood was the dozen Gallery and Hustler mags that the previous owner (my uncle) left in the trunk. Lol

 

[GTXperience]

AMC= All Makes Combined

Maybe the best of all worlds (except for the door panels and other interior parts).

 

[BeatersRus]

Thanks for answering a few of the ?s regarding AMC. I always wondered how the 390s and 360s played into their scheme. And how they compare to the same CID engines from other makes.

My first very first car was a 74 Gremlin. I was twelve and drove that car around the farm like a stock car. Even better than the L6 under the hood was the dozen Gallery and Hustler mags that the previous owner (my uncle) left in the trunk. Lol

the 290-304-360-390-401 were all small blocks.
amazing,but true.
high nickel content as well.
head designs were changed in 70/71 to the dogleg port heads/best flow,and the change to torqueflite trans happened in 72.
before that,they used a lazy borg warner automatic,that was mated to the crank/drilled.
( so if you have an early motor and a later trans,you got problems )

comparisons,even today not many know or even understand amc cars.
i saw an ad last week for a guy selling a cherokee with a 360 and his exact words were,you can scrap it and put the motor in your plymouth cuda<< lol.
hes not even close to being right.

performance,well,its a small block,that ran with the big dogs.
my fastest was a 401 4 speed car,and i won a lot of races but,
still just a small block.
when they switched the ball n trunnion front ends out,the cars became Very good at handling.

pure stock muscle drags/an amc javelin 401 car has run 12.9 seconds.

it would be interesting to see a shootout of the small block pony cars.
say the mustang,the cuda,the trans am,the javelin,and the corvette.

final thought,i see people laughing about amc using other parts..
did you think Your cars were built inhouse with only carefully selected parts made by a 100% mopar only factory?
LOL.
your parts were made by many diff suppliers,just like amc.

 

[Richard Cranium]

final thought,i see people laughing about amc using other parts..
did you think Your cars were built inhouse with only carefully selected parts made by a 100% mopar only factory?
LOL.
your parts were made by many diff suppliers,just like amc.[/QUOTE]


That is somewhat true, but "our" cars still don't have AMC badges on them.

 

[BeeKool]

the 290-304-360-390-401 were all small blocks.
amazing,but true.
high nickel content as well.
head designs were changed in 70/71 to the dogleg port heads/best flow,and the change to torqueflite trans happened in 72.
before that,they used a lazy borg warner automatic,that was mated to the crank/drilled.
( so if you have an early motor and a later trans,you got problems )

comparisons,even today not many know or even understand amc cars.
i saw an ad last week for a guy selling a cherokee with a 360 and his exact words were,you can scrap it and put the motor in your plymouth cuda<< lol.
hes not even close to being right.

performance,well,its a small block,that ran with the big dogs.
my fastest was a 401 4 speed car,and i won a lot of races but,
still just a small block.
when they switched the ball n trunnion front ends out,the cars became Very good at handling.

pure stock muscle drags/an amc javelin 401 car has run 12.9 seconds.

it would be interesting to see a shootout of the small block pony cars.
say the mustang,the cuda,the trans am,the javelin,and the corvette.

final thought,i see people laughing about amc using other parts..
did you think Your cars were built inhouse with only carefully selected parts made by a 100% mopar only factory?
LOL.
your parts were made by many diff suppliers,just like amc.

SO an AMC 360 is nothing like the Ford or dodge power plants? And the 390 is not like the 390, which (ford) is a big block.
Thanks for clarifying, I have a few more ?s for later

 

[DeltaV]

Reminds me more of a Camaro than an E body. This Ain't My Car.

 

[BeatersRus]

[QUOTE="Richard Cranium, post: 910573285,]

That is somewhat true, but "our" cars still don't have AMC badges on them. [/QUOTE]

i look at it like this,they were the Under dog,
and yet they managed to stay in the game all the way to the renault deal.
( that whole deal should have shown the big 3 what making deals with foreign car companies would be like...)

plus they put out cars that are still beautiful today,
the Amx,the Scrambler,S/C Hornet,The Machine,and so on.
while i love my mopars dearly,i still Respect a car company that tried,
and hey,it was an American car company. ;)

 

[BeatersRus]

SO an AMC 360 is nothing like the Ford or dodge power plants? And the 390 is not like the 390, which (ford) is a big block.
Thanks for clarifying, I have a few more ?s for later

no sir,most of amc are the same small block,just bored over.
different cranks/rods etc.
there are also some oddballs,327,and others,
that are also not chevy motors but an amc motor.
no relation to any of the fords.
you can and will find amc motors in international trucks.

right about 72 is the year for doing up an amc motor.
because of the diff crank issues,
anything below can get expensive and frustrating.
its brutal finding amc parts anymore.
on the flip side,even a 304 amc motor with a cam and 4 bbl will surprise you.
banging gears with the 401 also puts a grin on your face.

 

[moparnation74]

final thought,i see people laughing about amc using other parts..
did you think Your cars were built inhouse with only carefully selected parts made by a 100% mopar only factory?
LOL.
your parts were made by many diff suppliers,just like amc.

My build currently is in my house and all the parts are carefully hand selected, lol
The first build well, who knows but hey it has a GTX badge on that at least.

 

[747mopar]

I find it odd bashing Mopars on a Mopar forum just because people are finally realizing how beautiful of a car they are. I'd be willing to bet the sudden interest in the E body has come from people being fed up with looking at nothing but Chevelle's, Camaro's, Mustang's and 57 Chevy's for the last several decades?

A 1970 Challenger was my first love affair with a classic car... never had the opportunity to buy it but the hook was set. It wasn't long before I turned to the B bodies but love them all. Bring on the E bodies cause me likey!!