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Insurance (Robbery) Time

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Cars are another year older, no violations for years, proposed 6-mo rate up 24% for an 18 year old Ram and a 6 year old Honda. Other's also experiencing attempted robbery (Allstate)?

I guess its time to shop again. Such a PITA.
 
"You're in good hands."
But those hands are also deep into your pockets.
 
I **** in their good hands. They dropped me because a payment got screwed up during the pandemic and I was $31 dollars short,not knowing that they had raised my rates. I sent the same amount as always. I used to pay in person at a local office monthly, but because of the scamdemic that option was no longer allowed. I was a customer who paid on time for 31 years! I asked them to reinstate me,they refused. My insurance is double now with triple A because I had to start all over as a "new customer "! F Allstate!
 
Cars are another year older, no violations for years, proposed 6-mo rate up 24% for an 18 year old Ram and a 6 year old Honda. Other's also experiencing attempted robbery (Allstate)?

I guess its time to shop again. Such a PITA.
All of the big insurers are up bigly. Allstate, State Farm and even Progressive. Supposedly cuz of COVID :rolleyes:

Story goes that nobody was out on the road and they made record profits. Then the idiots went back on the road, apparently forgot how to drive (not like they knew how to begin with) and there were many more crashes than in a normal year and they lost their collective asses. So guess who gets to foot the bill now...
 
State Farm gave me a small rebate during Covid for the reasons stated in the previous post. But they got it back, and then some, the next time around. I get a bit of a buffer as a full line customer with a significant umbrella liability policy, so I don't get hammered as bad as some folks.

I dealt with the insurance companies on a daily basis when I was a trucking company general counsel. For sure, my most disliked job duty. Loss prevention guys, who never drove a day in their lives, telling me how my programs sucked, but they would lead me through the swamp because they were there to help me. Excuse me while I puke. They were there to give me a 5% discount if I kissed their butts, which I did, with gusto, to justify my six figure compensation.

We had a great year in 1997, and got a premium reduction. The next year was bad, and we got cancelled. The company carried a $100,000 deductible, with a $10 million policy limit. Above that a $30 million umbrella policy with another carrier kicked in. Major money on the table. My mother, an insurance agent, had always nagged me to get into the trade. She had a point. I just ended up working on the wrong side of the table.
 
Well, my current attitude aligns with your last statement Chargervert! I might add that I had to significantly lower my property insurance coverage with Allstate when they proposed a 50% increase last year.

I will enjoy giving them some feedback shortly.
 
I use an insurance broker.
They do a great job for me.

Thanks for the tip. I have always shopped around myself, but after using the APP Gigi to shop around today, I think that going with a broker is a good move.
 
I wasn't happy last winter when my Hagerty renewal came and was up nearly 50%
My agent was able to find another collector car insurance company for me that was actually a bit less than I'd been paying Hagerty in 2022. Still not happy Hagerty was trying to jack up my rates so much, no claims, good credit score, no tickets etc.
The insurance companies aren't making bank from what I have been seeing in the news. I have State Farm for my daily drivers and house, and my rates were not increased much during my recent renewals, but hearing how much they've been losing I fear what I will be seeing in the near future!
Auto Claims Consign State Farm to Its Largest-Ever Underwriting Loss
 
I have zero loyalty to any insurance company, because they do not value you or me as customers. My homeowner's insurance went up 33% with CSAA (AAA) over last year, and that was with no claims for 12 years. The car insurance went up, too. Their excuse - "Well, everyone on the state is paying more this year, so..." Well, I'm NOT "everyone".

Went to Allstate, because with AAA, it is impossible to actually have a face-to-face with a local agent. Unless, of course, you want to buy insurance. Actual policy servicing or even questions are on the phone or "have you tried our website?"

Allstate is a ball-buster, too, but it IS marginally cheaper and they have actual local agents.

For my old cars, Hagarty has been superb. No qualms with them. (knocks on wood)...
 
I have zero loyalty to any insurance company, because they do not value you or me as customers. My homeowner's insurance went up 33% with CSAA (AAA) over last year, and that was with no claims for 12 years. The car insurance went up, too. Their excuse - "Well, everyone on the state is paying more this year, so..." Well, I'm NOT "everyone".

Went to Allstate, because with AAA, it is impossible to actually have a face-to-face with a local agent. Unless, of course, you want to buy insurance. Actual policy servicing or even questions are on the phone or "have you tried our website?"

Allstate is a ball-buster, too, but it IS marginally cheaper and they have actual local agents.

For my old cars, Hagarty has been superb. No qualms with them. (knocks on wood)...

Yup. I find myself changing insurance companies every 3-5 years to keep rate increases in check. Allstate was was fine at first, or I would not have gone with them. I suppose maybe they gave me a good rate to get me in the door and now trying to make up for it.
 
The homeowners insurance at my palatial NH estate more than doubled over last year. I got a letter from my agent saying that they are looking at other carriers.

The carrier I currently have is Farmers. Perhaps if they didn’t spend as much on commercials, they could keep the rates down.

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There is one commonality in all of this.... INSURANCE COMPANIES SUCK.
 
I use an insurance broker.
They do a great job for me.
If you were a Broker then you couldn't Broker All-State because they are a "Direct Line Insurance Company" and not an Independent Mutual Co. I was an Independent Agen/Broker and never could I broker out All-State for the 11 years I was in the business. If you would, explain to the rest of us how that is possible because I know it is not...Just sayin is all...
cr8crshr/Bill :usflag: :usflag: :usflag:
 
So it seems many of y'all go with these captive Direct Line Insurance Companys...All-State, St Farm, Progressive, USAA, etc....and do not look at the Independent Insurance Agency over dealing directly with those companies. An Independent Agent is actually truly working to represent you to the various Insurers that he represents which can be quite a few depending upon the agency size. As for the increases occurring as of late, they blame it on Covid, Inflation where the costs now to say build a house as it was before a loss has gone through the roof for materials and labor. They then hit us all with a premium increase to cover either those future losses or the ones currently happening. I get it actually as even though I have the business experience in insurance, I am still a consumer and have to continue the quest for a more favorable insurer to take me on as a risk. And that is the key point here. We are all a "risk", and when the losses occur and claims are paid, we get to take it in the shorts and our rates increase. My only suggestion is to shop around and then shop around for the best company, the best agent, and the best rate cost to you as the consumer. It is a PITA to do so every few years but in the end, any savings one can make from them in the Ponzi Scheme the need and requirement Insurance is and has become, is to me, well worth the effort and aggravation it is in doing so. Good luck in that quest. Oh...and just a side note...I used to sell Progressive as an Independent Agent when they were nothing but a Sub Standard Insurance Co. for SR 21 insurance coverage riders for DUIs and Motorcycles and Boats. This was way before Soros bought the company and why I personally will never do business with them nor should anyone else...cr8crshr/Bill:usflag::usflag::usflag:
 
There is one commonality in all of this.... INSURANCE COMPANIES SUCK.
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If you were a Broker then you couldn't Broker All-State because they are a "Direct Line Insurance Company" and not an Independent Mutual Co. I was an Independent Agen/Broker and never could I broker out All-State for the 11 years I was in the business. If you would, explain to the rest of us how that is possible because I know it is not...Just sayin is all...
cr8crshr/Bill :usflag: :usflag: :usflag:
I didn't say they offered all state. Not sure where you got that notion?
But they represent a couple companies and help me with any policy changes.
 
Yes, they suck:

For kicks, just got an e-quote from Experian (Gabi is the phone App) that was competitive.... until they make you call them to finalize... after sitting on hold for 10 minutes, and with no changes or exceptions to the submitted info they want 20% more than the e-quote. It's a total fishing scheme. Do not waste your time with them.
 
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.I used to sell Progressive as an Independent Agent when they were nothing but a Sub Standard Insurance Co. for SR 21 insurance coverage riders for DUIs and Motorcycles and Boats. This was way before Soros bought the company and why I personally will never do business with them nor should anyone else...
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There's always a bottom to any cesspool, and in the insurance one it's this ^ company.
 
In a way, I can understand increases because US financial policy has destroyed the value of our dollar and shop rates have gone up by 90% in the last 2 years. They are trying to pay their people, make a little to keep the building up, but they are in the same place we all are in too, their shop liability insurance and health insurance rates keep spiking.

On the other hand....
I have had State Farm since 2001. For multiple cars, and home. Some policies for cars are that old, they let me put one policy transferred to another vehicle when I got a newer one, that sort of thing. Driving record is spotless. I have no claims. I pay 6 months at a time, would do a year but they don't allow. I am never late on payments.
My son gets a policy for his 200C. Like 3 years ago. Lost his job, had a rough go finding another, actually came and lived at home for 2 months. He let his policy lapse for a month because he wasn't driving his car and was broke. Found a job, we got him to work, he got paid, reinstated.
Goes to visit a buddy as he had money for gas 2 days later after reinstated. Hits a deer.
Told to get estimate, turns it in next day.
A week later, he calls. His claim is being investigated.

This started mid-April.

3 weeks ago, investigator guy calls our house. Calls my son, starts asking him for his cell records. Nothing to hide, he sent in his records for the week it happened.
Guy calls back, asks son questions like "what types of games do you like" and " did you go somewhere else the day before the accident" and an assortment of other dubiously related questions.

Then, the guy calls my wife(I am at work)
Asks her about sons personal life, about "type of games he likes" wants a specific time down to the minute the accident happened(she was not in the car) based off these phone records. She replied she doesn't remember exactly because they waited 8 FING WEEKS TO CALL ABOUT IT.

Two days ago he gets approved for repair, but needs a new estimate because only one shop in 50 miles is on their approved list, or, get this, he can send 3 pictures in and they will do estimate remotely themselves. Yeah no. Yesterday he drives to the place, gets quote, same as local place. Asks if local place can do repair.
"No, local place shop rate is $30/hour higher."
But the final estimate is different by 140 bucks.
My favorite part, is they are booked until August 14. That is when they can start.

Son hits deer in April, can begin to have car repair done in the middle of August. He can;t drive his car, the whole header is smashed out he has no headlights. He will never get lucky enough not to be busted and fined in the next 6 weeks if he ventures out. He has paid monthly premium since he got it reinstated and will continue, even though he can not drive his car or use it really between April and August. If he does not pay they will cancel him, and with the claim now he would be facing increased rates or possibly refusal, this straight from the agent.

At this point, they have alienated not only my son, but a customer that has 5 auto policies and home policy and has paid in full n time for 22 years straight. If you are looking for insurance, use a broker, and ask broker about the service. Saving money is great until you car is smashed and you can't get it fixed for 5 months. I called my agent and asked if I would also get such delightful, fast service if I hit a deer with my car. Or if I would see a check for my house if it burned, or if I would have to send them 3 pictures to do a remote estimate.

My premiums are paid for a bit, but I will be looking around. Most of my stuff is old, and because I daily like 4 vehicles I put on paltry mileage per year. I am thinking hagerty might cut me a break considering these things. I have heard the General is a reputable company in the past, but have not heard anything recently. Progressive used to send adjusters to your house in a little white car the day after you called, but I haven't seen one of those cars on the road in 6 years, and the TV commercial companies are, apprently, all in the same boat as my current carrier. So it seems the field is limited, in the end I will buy whoever will not F me over if I get an actual claim. Obviously, this is no longer State Farm.
 
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