Interior rear window trim

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    I looked at my original package tray, and I too don’t see any signs of staples in tray or the trim/gasket looking piece. Staples might not be a bad idea though, or some other method to hold the tray and trim/seal in place, to aid in getting the two into position without the trim falling off. Gets tight reaching back into the crevice where the trim sits at the bottom of glass line and back of the tray, if that makes sense. I didn’t mess with it too long, as it’s pretty hot here, and didn’t want to sweat all over the new package tray. Anyone else who wants to share their experience would be welcomed. Perhaps there’s more than one method the factory used in installing these? Attaching a couple more photos of the piece I am referring to.

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    Your new package tray did not have the clips on the bottom? Did you not take from the old one? Mine has two clips that lock the package tray into place. It does not move at all once into position and clips lock in.
     
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    The only clips I have are the two that get screwed in behind the seat back to lock it into position. You can see them in the last pix I posted above. I should have mentioned I am trying to use the original bottom trim piece as it’s in decent shape, other than slight deformation in the center that happened over time because of it pulled away from the center area that I circled in red in the original post. There are no staples on the trim piece or package tray. I plan on trying again this weekend, perhaps the trim piece needs to be coaxed into seating itself somehow at the bottom of the window. I can take a picture of the actual trim piece as it’s attached to the package tray, so you can see the way the back profile (window) side of the trim/seal piece looks, if that’s of any help. As long as I can get it to sit tight and flush at the bottom of the window all the way from side to side, I’ll be happy. Maybe my tray didn’t get staples for whatever reason. I think my car was a September 1969 Lynch Road build if that matters, but I would need to double check that. Appreciate everyone who weighed in.
     
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    This is the bottom of my package tray, there are the two clips that lock into the steel section it sits on in the car

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    Thanks. I honestly don’t remember seeing those 2 clips on the underside of my tray, but will take a look when I get back home later today. Also don’t think I have the round hole/holes detail on the trim piece shown in your second photo, but will check for that as well. Thanks for taking the time to post the info.
     
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    All the differences here are making me wonder. My car was built on Lynch Road. I have a
    two piece trim with a lower Rubber/plastic seal across the bottom. No corner pieces. The only
    thing that holds the package tray in place are the two metal clips with screws. Built in June
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    All good, I am guessing that things changed from year if you do not have the holes in the steel section of the area where the package tray goes.
    It's crazy there is this much difference. I am going to get another full image shot of my tray that is removed so we can examine. I wish it was a little more cut and dry.
     
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    Hey Guys-appreciate your efforts in trying to help out. Don’t want you to go crazy trying to help me out. I will take a closer look at my original tray and the rubber trim piece that goes with it. Will also get some good pictures of what I have. Could be they’re just a little different for whatever reason it is. I don’t think I will be able to get to doing that though until later today at the earliest. Thanks again. Maybe between our comparisons, we can learn something.
     
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      Here are pictures of the bottom of my original package tray-no clips or staples securing the trim piece to the package tray. The black strip on one end is just a piece of metal banding to act as anchor for screws that hold the speaker cover on the top of tray as shown in previous picture. Not any part of the original package tray. Everything else shown is exactly what came out of the car when I removed it to try re-seating the bottom trim piece flush to the window. Ending up buying a new package tray since seat is out, and now I’m trying to figure out how to put it back correctly, without having to buy entire window trim kit. I will post a couple more photos of what my original stuff looks like in another post.

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      Here are photos of my original bottom trim piece. There’s a tab protruding on one side only, not sure if it’s a mold tab or actually has some functionality in locking it into place? It’s in decent condition for original 52 years old. I planned on cleaning it and re-using if possible. The top and side trim looks like it’s a continuous piece but I have to look closer. It’s pulled away a little bit on the drivers side, and I’m not sure how it gets secured into position? If anyone can weigh in with how this goes together, please advise. Now I see my headliner looks like it wrinkled up a bit possibly from nothing anchoring in place in that small area?

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      Yeah, that's definitely Windlace around your back window! Shazam! Your headliner needs to be re-glued
      to the package tray shelf. Make sure it's taught with no wrinkles. When you put the package tray down,
      it will tighten a little more and look neat and crisp!
       
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      Ok. Thanks. I never heard of “windlace” before. I’m not positive I can repair as you describe, but will try as soon as I get a chance. Does that windlace just get pushed into the area around the window, or does it require some type of adhesive! There is putty like material here and there that’s obviously been there since new, but never observed until the lower section of windlace pulled out when I removed the package tray and trim piece. Thanks for your input.
       
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      "Windlace" is the material that is installed at the rear of the door opening that covers the
      interior vinyl panel and transitions to the door jamb. It runs vertical from the window down
      to the sill plate. I don't think that was ever stock from the factory, but hey, I'm not 100%!
       
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      There was three different profiles for the windlace as used on the 68 to 70 B-Body applications. That being the more common style found at the pinch weld where the interior quarter door panels butts up to the pinch weld. This piece typically does not go bad and you can purchase the more common GM style if the originals are missing or if you cannot find a set of originals.

      The other windlace as used on the interior rear window trim is an unique piece that is not reproduced at this time. It is somewhat durable, so it seems to survive better than the plastic interior trim that some of these cars used. The other piece of windlace was found to finish the B-Pillar trim on the two door sedan applications. It is not available as a reproduction either. It is quite wide and has a "F" like profile.
       
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      Thanks for the info. I’m sorry but I’m ignorant on what everything is officially called. This all started with the inside rear window trim piece that’s between the rear edge of the package tray and the bottom of interior side of the rear window, pulling away slightly in the center area, exposing a visible gap when looking inside the rear window from outside of the car. Purely a cosmetic issue that was bugging me. I decided to pull the original package tray and try reseating the trim piece to the new package tray. I will try tomorrow, but in the meantime, the remaining trim (windlace) that goes down the sides of the sail panels has pulled away slightly, and the headliner there is now wrinkled as zzyzzx explains in his last post. I have decided to put the old package tray back as best I can, put seats back, and take the car to upholstery shop to have a new headliner installed, and they will also put new windlace trim and package tray back at same time. It’s long overdue, so that’s what I will do. That said, anyone that can recommend a vendor for the headliner, clips, and trim, would be appreciated.
       
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      I bought my Headliner from Year One, and their supplier is ACME in California. Yeah, the
      same company that the Cayote used to buy all of his "supplies" at! No, not really. But they
      make some excellent products! Got the clips and trim from Year One too. Make sure the
      clips are correct! Match them with the old ones so the window trim fits correctly.
       
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      Year One has a sale going on this weekend. 25% off, use code: HEMICAR
       
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      Hey-THANKS! I’ll check it out asap. Really appreciate your help, and enjoyed the coyote reference too-maybe I can get an anvil and a few sticks of TNT to take advantage of the 20% off! Take care
       
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        So you seem to be happy with your headliner from YearOne…I was wondering if you or anyone here know what the difference is between the one you got and the one Classic sells for $100 more. Is that extra cost worth it?
         
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        Most of the headliners sold by the larger vendors are manufactured by Acme. Years ago, Acme even had some NOS material to make up the headliners. Now they pretty much only sell the NOS material to Legendary. SMS also supplies headliners. They are quite pricey and the turn around time can be quite lengthy as compared to the others. No matter who you decide to purchase from, it is likely that the item may be on back order for a couple of weeks. The market has grown so that Acme now only sells to it's network of dealers. Hopefully you can ask your preferred supplier who is manufacturer of the piece. Depending upon the body style of the car, some of the headliners fit better depending upon the manufacturer.
         
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