Matching Numbers & Bondo...

[WileE]

Screw 'em. I always say, ignore the ignoramus. Enjoy your car.

 

[olddog67]

grow a pair and learn to ignore!
it will make life easier for ya...

Thanks man lol Didnt say it bothered me at all, I was more curious as to why some are fixated on OE, numbers matching, bondo etc.

 

[flypaper]

Thanks man lol Didnt say it bothered me at all, I was more curious as to why some are fixated on OE, numbers matching, bondo etc.

its all about the Money and
when someone is like that unknown to them,the money bought them some ignorance.
best to ignore because it is mighty expensive to fix that kind of person.( they need help you cannot buy)

 

[1967coronet440]

Until someone starts funding my builds I’ll build them how I want. A lot have asked why I took the original seats out, because I wanted too. I’ve Been asked why haven’t you fixed that rust spot in the drivers lower quarter, haven’t gotten to it yet and I’m more worried about putting my new 505 stroker in and launching off the trans brake than I am fixing a little rust spot. My car has a 10/10 (10 feet away and 10mph) paint job from maaco and i am perfectly happy with it.

 

[themechanic]

I just got mine back on the road lately. I had a guy at a local drive in show make "comments" on the way I did the engine compartment wiring. After a few minutes, I asked to see pictures of his ride and his approach to the method. He then stated he didn't actually have a car at the show. Some people just like to criticize, don't worry about what everyone else thinks, as long as you like it.

Just have some business cards made up with the following words and hand them out to people like that.

 

[Kern Dog]

At the risk of insulting the guy, Dennis H, a FBBO member, has been an inspiration to me without even knowing it.
He drives his 69 Coronet R/T everywhere. Work, shopping, car shows, road trips, wherever he wants to go. He drives his classic like most people drive their Camry, Subaru or Ram truck.
I like that.

 

[Scatpack]

At the risk of insulting the guy, Dennis H, a FBBO member, has been an inspiration to me without even knowing it.
He drives his 69 Coronet R/T everywhere. Work, shopping, car shows, road trips, wherever he wants to go. He drives his classic like most people drive their Camry, Subaru or Ram truck.
I like that.

Yup, that’s the way I roll. I drive the bee everywhere till the city salt the roads. I have people ask when I was gonna fix the rust on the 1/4’s or the crack on drivers 1/4, upper door jam from body flex. “Someday” but I drive it like a daily driver, gonna be more dents and rust. Gotta love the people who talk about your car but can’t walk the walk cause they don’t even own a muscle car. By the way, polyglas tires aren’t that terrible in the snow

 

[HawkRod]

People said I was stupid when I took my damn near perfect 70 Road Runner immediately after a restoration and drove it 5800 miles across the country. Well, I guess I'm stupid, but it's still one of the greatest things I've ever done. She wears the paint chips, scuffs and wear with pride!

As far as ANYONE talking down about someone's ride: That's bullshit. Everyone has different likes, everyone has different financial capabilities, and everyone has different skills and knowledge to work on their car. People like that should crawl back under the rock they came from. People should learn to appreciate diversity, not just stuff made to their tastes.

I have been heaping praise on a 17 year old kid with a 6 cylinder Ford Maverick. It is rusted to hell, interior is shot, etc. Honestly it is more of a parts car than anything else. BUT, he works his *** off improving it despite no money and proudly shows it at local car shows. I figure helping him is really helping build the next generation of car guys/gals...

 

[PeteBell68]

You will probably find out the people who criticize cars often don't even own one .
Drive you car , enjoy your car have fun with it .
I smile every time I go for a ride even when I get gas and that's often .
Even if it's just around the block ..

 

[PappyJoe]

What I think has been stated many times in this thread. To each his own. Each person has to decide what they want the car to do, and what they expect to get from it. Some are into the pristine numbers matching show only cars. And that's fine. I'm into a good 20-20. 20 feet and 20 miles an hour she looks pretty good. That's what I wanted from the car I'm building. Honestly it's turning out better than that and it scares me. I'm afraid I won't want to drive it when it's done. And that was not my goal. So I'm planning to try really hard not to lose sight of my goal. As each of us has to do. In the end it's the enjoyment you get out of it that counts.

 

[PeteBell68]

I would be the guy at the auction if I won the lottery big buying a few cars that I really love and then would have a lot of fun with them and drive them as they were built to do - hard

 

[ws23jrt]

One has to admit that the terms we are talking about like--bondo queen, barn find, numbers matching, One of-***, trailer queen, resto-mod, driver, ten footer, original, was running when parked, rust free, etc, etc, Are the language we have adopted.
When two strangers meet next to a car like in this topic. A conversation will likely start about the car and our established language/terms will be used.

There will always be misunderstandings as a chat begins.

 

[ws23jrt]

I have a few old friends that I get together with from time to time that have no clue about our car hobby.
One question that comes up the most often when discussing my cars is--. Is it "numbers matching"?
That is a term they have heard from somewhere and generally feel like they have a good question for me to show interest in my interest.
Of course, my answer could go on until their eyes glaze over but I do not do that. I make it brief and ask what grabs their eye when they see something special in a car.

 

[1967coronet]

Filler in mine for sure, I know right were it is since I put it here & there.
Painted bumpers, flat black hood with pins, 06 ford truck paint code.
Just like Frank sings............... I did it my way

 

[kiwigtx]

Ever notice that the opinionated "experts" who feel free to find flaws in your car most likely don't even own one? But they read lots of magazines!

Ain't that the truth. We have a few of those here.

 

[moparnation74]

This is a very old thread but I want to thank everyone for their thoughts. It is encouraging to me as I paid a lot for my car as it was to be numbers matching, and it turns out it is not, and it has no fender tag. HOWEVER... the only reason I was disappointed is because what everyone else seems hooked on it, and how it may effect a future resale (if that ever happens). Me caring? Not so much. I want to make a killer car, not collect coins. Period. Now I hear there is even a chance my car might not be an original 4 speed. Everyone feels sooooo bad for me. I say great! Thank you! I wish I could find whoever did this crime against humanity on a 'real' R/T so I can shake his hand, he saved me from doing it myself. Don't get me wrong, I see the point of keeping things stock if you have something really special but I think it's way out of hand now. On facebook there is a B bodies thing, and it seems someone found out his Super Bee might not be a true Super Bee. Same car, same fun, same speed, same thrills. But now after, after ALREADY having it, someone tells him "oh, it might not be real, you can start feeling crappy anytime now". Say what?

My guess with all the numbers matching Klansman is it must of started with someone wanting huge money for a car and they had to justify as to why so much much more then the next guy. But let them find out the trans might of been changed, which could of been even done by Chrysler under warranty, it's a major mark against it. This reminds me a lot like guitars. The old vintage American Fender guitars, basses and Les Paul guitars were always a little more money, but there was a time not that long ago a player on a players pay could still afford them. Now people that are awful musicians buy them as investments, push them in a storage room, and an average musician can't get them. So they sit in a closest and never sing the way they were born to do. And sure, that's the investors right, but that is the sad state of affairs now. They buy them because they know a true player will do about anything to get their hands on one. So the investor grabs them all and locks them away as there is a way to capitalize on players passions

I feel these cars are getting the same way. Collectors will hoard them and look for reasons why they are good investments. I suppose this protects some as artifacts, but that's not my bag. I'd rather have a hemi in a restomod with Q1A and wildwoods, then a numbers matching 318, but hey..... that's just me. Nothing wrong with either, but I choose what I want, not how rare a beer can is

I plan to convert to disc brakes, my R/T came with drums. So sorry if this is offensive, but don't forget, she is just a common mutt now. No fender tag.

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So are your going to revive every old thread pertaining to matching numbers, OE, original cars etc
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/matching-numbers-defined.10596/page-2

I am an OE guy and don’t appreciate your fat mouth remark of “klansman”.......so you get “butt hurt” and can’t chock off piss poor remarks from idiots......trust me the OE guys rip on each other just as harsh.....Also, should I bring up all the non OE guys telling me why they wouldn’t build a car as nice or why build a car you can’t drive, blah blah...who the flip cares worry about yourself and your car..It is not a one way street here! Both sides act as fools...

Going around reviving old threads is acting as a “fool” just as the people your bitching about......

Personally, I enjoy all types of builds and owned all types.....it is the variety that makes it a real hobby.....

As I stated in the beginning, to each is own and enjoy it your way.....

 

[moparnation74]

This is a very old thread but I want to thank everyone for their thoughts. It is encouraging to me as I paid a lot for my car as it was to be numbers matching, and it turns out it is not, and it has no fender tag. HOWEVER... the only reason I was disappointed is because what everyone else seems hooked on it, and how it may effect a future resale (if that ever happens). Me caring? Not so much. I want to make a killer car, not collect coins. Period. Now I hear there is even a chance my car might not be an original 4 speed. Everyone feels sooooo bad for me. I say great! Thank you! I wish I could find whoever did this crime against humanity on a 'real' R/T so I can shake his hand, he saved me from doing it myself. Don't get me wrong, I see the point of keeping things stock if you have something really special but I think it's way out of hand now. On facebook there is a B bodies thing, and it seems someone found out his Super Bee might not be a true Super Bee. Same car, same fun, same speed, same thrills. But now after, after ALREADY having it, someone tells him "oh, it might not be real, you can start feeling crappy anytime now". Say what?

My guess with all the numbers matching Klansman is it must of started with someone wanting huge money for a car and they had to justify as to why so much much more then the next guy. But let them find out the trans might of been changed, which could of been even done by Chrysler under warranty, it's a major mark against it. This reminds me a lot like guitars. The old vintage American Fender guitars, basses and Les Paul guitars were always a little more money, but there was a time not that long ago a player on a players pay could still afford them. Now people that are awful musicians buy them as investments, push them in a storage room, and an average musician can't get them. So they sit in a closest and never sing the way they were born to do. And sure, that's the investors right, but that is the sad state of affairs now. They buy them because they know a true player will do about anything to get their hands on one. So the investor grabs them all and locks them away as there is a way to capitalize on players passions

I feel these cars are getting the same way. Collectors will hoard them and look for reasons why they are good investments. I suppose this protects some as artifacts, but that's not my bag. I'd rather have a hemi in a restomod with Q1A and wildwoods, then a numbers matching 318, but hey..... that's just me. Nothing wrong with either, but I choose what I want, not how rare a beer can is

I plan to convert to disc brakes, my R/T came with drums. So sorry if this is offensive, but don't forget, she is just a common mutt now. No fender tag.

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This is you in the thread below right....the same guy spreading his own “buyer” mistake across multi forums......

Only a “fool” would buy a car as you did......since you got schooled in that now your biting back on OE people based on your mistake....lol

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...me-mopar6930-user-name.163911/#post-911128310

 

[747mopar]

At the risk of insulting the guy, Dennis H, a FBBO member, has been an inspiration to me without even knowing it.
He drives his 69 Coronet R/T everywhere. Work, shopping, car shows, road trips, wherever he wants to go. He drives his classic like most people drive their Camry, Subaru or Ram truck.
I like that.

I 100% agree, Dennis is a pure enthusiast that FULLY enjoys his classic. I try to rack up as many miles as I can every year but working somewhere that will cover your car in dust and dirt limits me (not washing it everyday or having it filthy constantly). My kids go to all of their games in it, eat in it, go on long vacations in it etc, as a result it's never in top notch shape but it's thoroughly enjoyed.

As for the OEM vs non OEM guys... I don't get the rivalry, both are enthusiasts that benefit the other. It only becomes a problem when one rips on the other like the guys constantly tell us how hideous bigger tires are or us poking fun of the trailer queens. There's lot's of thought and hard work put in for either side just different end results, some are worth a lot of money and score high at shows and some are worth a lot in enjoyment... pick one and enjoy. I will never build an OEM car but respect the work that it takes for those who choose too, that's all there should be to it.

 

[moparnation74]

Thanks for pointing that our as insensitive, and you have a good point. I have corrected myself on it and more so, I am not out to attack anyones enjoyment of the hobby (and said so in that same quote), but rather defend my own. If you respect what I have, I surely respect what you have. I love them all, down to hub caps (which are so cool on many of them). I will never say "ALL of those guys who like numbers matching" are all this way or that because I am not automatically referring to ALL people who restores to stock, invests, etc, but rather some that do have taken time out to make a dig on mine, uninvited, which are mostly car buyers/sellers here in my area. But as you pointed out, I did not start this tread or it's ideas but I will not comment any further opinions on it since it does seem to be a highly sensitive subject. I hope we all get the guidance, advise, and encouragement needed to see these great cars stay alive. My father worked for Chrysler Engineering in the days these were on the drawing table (as did my grandfather, and my Mom worked at Dodge main), I of all people can respect stock as well. But I do feel for my OWN situation, if I have the same engine minus the numbers, I am OK with it. Disappointed someone lied yes, but my personal opinion would be the same regardless. Let's just say I never went to a car show where I asked the person if their numbers matched, but more power to those that appreciate it more if they are

Lol....holy wall of text, lol.....

Ever hear of paragraphs?

Not for a minute I would waste my time reading that....

 

[b569Charger]

Lol....holy wall of text, lol.....

Very hear of paragraphs?

Not for a minute I would waste my time reading that

But had time to reply