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As there have been a few other discussions about these batteries. They seemed to be junk these days. The last two I have had have only lasted about two years each. I got sick of spending the big dollars for these batteries just for the look. I now gut all of my old dead batteries & hide a lightweight racing battery inside of them . The first one is going on about six years now. The second one is on its third year & I have one more to do eventually. Also takes it from like 46 lbs each to about 12 lbs each (for the racing guys).