"The 383 was a bored out 361"?

[j-c-c-62]

That is what this article claims. It says the "B" wedge began in 1958 with the 350 & 361.

MSN

But the confusion starts here with in 1959 Chrysler offering a RB 383. That is not a bored out 361 IMO.

What I am not clear about, did Chrysler also in 1959 offer a "B" 383?

 

[YY1]

There was an RB 383.

That's not really "confusion" per se to "real" Mopar people.

 

[R413]

RB 383 is real, 1959 and 1060 Chrysler only.
it uses a RB block, a 3.75 stroke and 4.04 bore

Not to be confused with a B block 383 3.375 stroke, 4.25 bore

 

[RemCharger]

And the 361 was an LS block, the 383 was LL. So no, it wasn't a bored out 361.
As far as B blocks

 

[kiwigtx]

 

[j-c-c-62]

There was an RB 383.

That's not really "confusion" per se to "real" Mopar people.

Now I really am confused, what are "real Mopar people", followed by who is qualified or should I say ordained to decide?

Because by my definition would be they are worthy enough to be able answer the original question, which you did not:

"did Chrysler also in 1959 offer a "B" 383?" or more informative, when did Mopar first offer a "B" 383?

 

[68-500]

Story I was told was. Chrysler could make 383 B fast enough so they made so on he RB platform to fill the need.

 

[Vaanth]

What I am not clear about, did Chrysler also in 1959 offer a "B" 383?

Chrysler did make a "B", or low block, 383 engine in 1959 as well as an "RB", or raised block engine.

Following is the 1959 Chrysler Corporation big block V-8 engine line-up for 1959:

Imperial 413 4-barrel RB

Chrysler
Windsor 383 2-barrel RB
Saratoga 383 4-barrel RB
New Yorker 413 4-barrel RB
300E 413 -2x4-barrel RB

DeSoto
Firesweep 361 2-barrel B
Firedome 383 2-barrel B
Fireflite 383 4-barrel B
Adventurer 383 2x4-barrel B

Dodge
361 2-barrel B
361 4-barrel B
383 4-barrel B
383 2x4-barrel B

Plymouth
361 4-barrel B

 

[j-c-c-62]

thanks, that was a lot of typing.
I am using "Chrysler" here in this discussion collectively here. Your list does show a 1959 "B" 383 made by the corporation, which the article claims is the bored out 361 I surmise.
Seems to me the RB 383 was the red headed stepchild here, and as another has postulated, to mostly to meet manufacturing stretched goals?
The 1959 RB 383 Chrysler motor was the "Golden Lion" BTW.

 

[Vaanth]

thanks, that was a lot of typing.
I am using "Chrysler" here in this discussion collectively here. Your list does show a 1959 "B" 383 made by the corporation, which the article claims is the bored out 361 I surmise.
Seems to me the RB 383 was the red headed stepchild here, and as another has postulated, to mostly to meet manufacturing stretched goals?
The 1959 RB 383 Chrysler motor was the "Golden Lion" BTW.

I had some mix up in my post. I've edited my post to clean it up.

 

[493 Mike]

thanks, that was a lot of typing.
I am using "Chrysler" here in this discussion collectively here. Your list does show a 1959 "B" 383 made by the corporation, which the article claims is the bored out 361 I surmise.
Seems to me the RB 383 was the red headed stepchild here, and as another has postulated, to mostly to meet manufacturing stretched goals?
The 1959 RB 383 Chrysler motor was the "Golden Lion" BTW.

So was my 59 413. I believe the decal made it so!
Mike

 

[Lefty71]

Your list does show a 1959 "B" 383 made by the corporation, which the article claims is the bored out 361 I surmise.

If the factory used different sleeves for the bore, then that "B" engine 383 is not a "bored out" 361.

It looks like, at least until 1964, the 350, 361 and 383 B blocks each had their own distinctive casting numbers.

B & RB 383 offered by DPCD yes in 1959. Dont ask me which cars tho....thats too much research. Chryslers/Imperials did get the RBs for sure tho, iirc.

 

[69 Sleeper Bee]

Well it's MSN so I don't put a lot of faith in their articles.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Well it's MSN so I don't put a lot of faith in their articles.

Nothing from any source, should be blindly accepted unless it is faith based.
I suspect this is where AI is leading us, and the tech details get overlooked.

 

[R413]

Every Chrysler 383 and 413 engine was adorned with Golden Lion decals in 59 60 61, except chrysler 300's.

1961 Newports got a 361. No golden lion 361 decals have been seen.in 1961, they were not proud of it?

Sell them on eBay.

 

[Detective D]

LOL, who says google isn't watching us?
From the top of my FB marketplace recommended (NOT MINE)
Related to topic at hand:

1959 low deck 383 dodge d500 desoto adventurer

Super rare 1959 ML 383 from a dodge d500 or desoto adventurer. All apart and cleaned. Will need 4 sleeves. These are impossible to find! A super rare engine. Call if interested 320 two nine two...

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I read this thread like 25 minutes ago.
I agree with seller, this is a rare engine. Low deck 383, with the 2x4 to boot. According to seller, it is only found in the top line DeSoto and the D500 of the year.

 

[BearDodge67]

Well it's MSN so I don't put a lot of faith in their articles.

It's actually just reposted from Jalopnik.. even called it a "338" in last paragraph..

They forgot to mention the 383 based on a 400 block..

 

[Lefty71]

I agree with seller, this is a rare engine.

I dunno.... looks like a rare intake, and we can't see what heads they are.... I just sold a REAL set of the rare heads this year, but that is most certainly the wrong crankshaft for that engine.

 

[Detective D]

I dunno.... looks like a rare intake, and we can't see what heads they are.... I just sold a REAL set of the rare heads this year, but that is most certainly the wrong crankshaft for that engine.

There is other stuff peeking into the edge of the photo. Obviously people would need to match numbers up. It looks like the guy tanked everything and then blasted it with primer to store it. I doubt the crank even goes with it or he would have it bagged or otherwise sprayed to keep it clean.
but I am just speculating. It isn't mine, and I have no interest in this ad. I just found it funny that a short bit after reading this thread FB decides to advertise an engine to me. Coincidence? Perfect timing? Or data collection of my browser history.... in any case, I don't know all there is to know about early 60's engines from any make, but I do know a lot of them had high compression and were tuned to run on probably the best gasoline ever produced in our history, and they could be real screamers for their time. I imagine a 2x4 big block like this would have some real tire roasting power.

 

[MoparLeo]

Here is a bunch of engine block and cylinder head casting numbers and specs from the 50's through the 70's for factory Mopars.
Copy it and put it in your files for reference.:

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