The cost of a paint job.

[Sinitro]

Where is earl schieb when you need him

In SoCal...
Earl Schieb's grandson still does some special order, high-end custom car paint jobs.
I have seen a couple, they are top show quality..

Just my $0.02....

 

[RR Fan Dan]

What did you buy for $4,000? Even PPG isn`t that expensive.

$3000 right there. Those 2 purple cans of ever coat primer on the bottom were close to $300 each. I haven’t bought paint yet. This is just prep stuff.

 

[68-500]

They no longer make Centari, but they do make a lower V.O.C. version of IMRON. If you use quality
base coats and clear coats, they will not peel. bad prep and incompatible products cause problems.

Looking at everything out there, OEM to aftermarket seems like they’re all peeling.

 

[sam dupont]

Do base/clear finishes beat enamel in judged events?

 

[sam dupont]

In SoCal...
Earl Schieb's grandson still does some special order, high-end custom car paint jobs.
I have seen a couple, they are top show quality..

Just my $0.02....

check out my $40,000 Schiebed paint job

 

[#41]

I just painted my 50's Coronet with Summit single stage this summer and I'm pretty happy with it. A gallon plus activator is around $150-170 bucks depending on color. I paid way more for the epoxy primer. With paint + primer + various stuff I got it done for around $1k in materials and around a zillion man-hours.

With this paint, color choice is limited and it obviously is not high quality paint for that price, but I expect it to last beyond my lifetime. It's not like these cars sit outside exposed the sun and elements. It's no show poodle, but definitely nice enough to turn some heads cruising.

 

[RemCharger]

Looking at everything out there, OEM to aftermarket seems like they’re all peeling.

Clear got the bad rep when it came out with the GMs 40 yrs ago. Some can't let it go.
But every manufacturer can still have some bad batch cars now and then.
As far as quality jobs with quality material? Don't peel.

 

[gtxdana]

Someday I might add up the receipts for the body and paint materials. Maybe. Of course, the paint rep at the body shop did a pretty good job of sticking it up my *** for materials and supplies. Like list plus 20%, or more, on some things. I'm glad I'll never have to deal with Industrial Finishes ever again.

There are some good products out there that work well and don't cost a fortune. U-POL System 20 high build primer/surfacer/sealer. You can buy it on Amazon for $100/gallon with the hardener. DTM. Sands easy. I know a couple of shops that are using it.

 

[Runner 68]

Yes the materials are crazy high but you guys aren't taking into account the labor cost which is most of it.
I put a $40,000 dollar paint job on my last build. ~$9,000 in material and ~1,200 hours of labor, blocking starting at 180. I'm old and slow but do the math.

 

[RemCharger]

Yes the materials are crazy high but you guys aren't taking into account the labor cost which is most of it.
I put a $40,000 dollar paint job on my last build. ~$9,000 in material and ~1,200 hours of labor, blocking starting at 180. I'm old and slow but do the math.

I think my paint guy and I sanded the whole car 9 times iirc. That included cut polishing the clear . He called it " the Neverending Charger" ( we had little kids and there was the Neverending story lol)

 

[Runner 68]

I think my paint guy and I sanded the whole car 9 times iirc. That included cut polishing the clear . He called it " the Neverending Charger" ( we had little kids and there was the Neverending story lol)

At least!! What sucks is the primer cost. Most of it ends up on the floor!!!
On my last one between blocking, shooting, cutting clear, buffing and polishing I made 24 laps around the car touching every square inch. Ton of work to get it right.
Several flaws as always but I'm the only one that knows where the bodies are buried.

 

[RemCharger]

The part I remember well was the smell of fresh paint everytime you sanded

 

[Kern Dog]

I love the smell of fresh paint on a car.

 

[RemCharger]

 

[PROSTOCKTOM]

I had to learn to do paint and bodywork because I couldn't afford to pay for the quality I wanted.

What I did learn was it takes an enormous amount of time and materials to get one laser straight.

I wouldn't do it for even $200 an hour if I were charging someone and I am not interested in doing any except on my projects.

My 74 AMC Hornet Hatchback body that I worked on last year didn't require any major bodywork and I probably had a $1000 in materials just getting it in primer and all blocked down.

I finally just stopped saving receipts because I honestly don't want to know what I have in it.

Tom

 

[Kern Dog]

I can sculpt filler but I'd love to know how to work metal better than I can now.
I'd also like to learn how to eliminate the "Oil can" reaction that sometimes occurs in sheet metal.

 

[66 Sat]

the other platitude is "a fool and his money..."

I always preferred "a fool and his money is soon partying"

 

[PROSTOCKTOM]

I can sculpt filler but I'd love to know how to work metal better than I can now.

Time & Patience, and the Willingness to make mistakes is all it takes to get good at it.

Just remember, If it was easy everyone could, and would do it.

Tom

 

[kiwigtx]

Do base/clear finishes beat enamel in judged events?

Hard to say....I had both forms going on with my '70 GTX. Cleaned up "Best Paint" three shows running over eight years.