Took the Plunge EV

[Photon440]

I’m sure in 50 years there will be EV‘s in car collections.

Why not, even now there are antique EV's in car collections.

 

[Detective D]

A base Tesla Model 3 is around 3,600 pounds, is a Durango really a lot lighter than that? The original Tesla Roadster was 2,723 pounds. 4150 pounds for the Model Y, their best seller.

I have you on ignore because of you uncontrollable need to try to "correct" everyone and everything on these boards, but I could not resist seeing what you tried to cherry pick out of my post.
Really? A roadster? Well a Neon was under 2600lbs. Maybe we should stick to comparable vehicles? A Dodge Rampage was 2400lbs, and that is sort of a truck. A Durango is a body on frame truck configured as an SUV, even the fully loaded R/T models in 2003 were around 4400lbs with full time AWD. Lots of cargo room, and ability to tow, 4wd, high ground clearance, truck type seating.
The Cybertruck is more than 1000lbs heavier, if we want to try to compare something at least resembling a Durango.If we want to go to the decked out awd cybertruck it is something like 6500lbs. And it gets stuck on a ten degree slope in 3" of snow. No, I don;t care if it can tow more, I have an 8.1/Allison crew cab for that with comparitively unlimited range.
A Tesla Model X, which might be something sort of in the SUV range, is over 5000lbs.

And I am not looking for a decked out 2003 with full time AWD, my ideal choice would be one from the late 90's that can run in rwd, or possibly even a 2wd model. By the time I am done removing the running boards I don't like, the rear seat I don't need or want, redoing the sound deadening with modern materials, ditching the multi-amp'd factory radio for something simple, ditching the bulky factory exhaust, maybe even the AC, I wil not be even close to factory weight. But even if I was, it would be 300lbs lighter than the model Y, and have substantially more capability in winter.

This is why you are on ignore. You can't help but try to "correct" everyone, and you will compare apples and oranges to do it and ignore context, like end use, cost of repairs, entry level pricing, etc. You pick one arbitrary item and fabricate some type of argument around it. It's tiresome. Have a nice day.

I’m sure in 50 years there will be EV‘s in car collections. It probably won’t be many but there will be a few examples to see the past. I don’t think the desire of collecting cars 50 years from now will be the same as it is now or was 20 years ago. People‘s love affair with the car is dwindling down. 50 to 75 years ago cars and the freedom they brought were a big deal. Nowadays, a lot of people just see him as transportation. They want the car to drive for them. As far as the batteries not lasting 50years how many 1970s four-door cop cars still have their original battery

LOL at finding a current model year EV Charger battery module in 50 years. I dropped the Optima blue top out of my dump trailer into the Monaco last week to move it out of the shop for the afternoon. Then I put it back. You are joking about comparing them right?


But it's fine, to each their own. I think personally the only current EV's we will see in 50 years will be battery-absent sitting in a museum. maybe someone with endless money will want one for their complete collection. But it will not resemble the current collector market where every single auction at least one Charger rolls across. As for car culture going away, tomorrow I am going to the largest hot rod show in the state and it will be mostly populated by people under the age of 40. In WI, the millenials and gen Z are building rat rods out of whatever they can find that has not returned to the earth, and they drive them to work in the summer. Giant cities have maybe forgotten their soul but in the rural areas the highways still equate freedom.

 

[OneWheelPeel]

I think years from now the electric cars will be in some collections, but probably retrofitted with whatever battery is contemporary at that point, or the original packs will be on one of many rebuilds which some people already do for the older EVs they want to drive.
I'm pretty sure, but not 100% that Jay Leno was putting a lithium cell into a turn of the last century's EV. But he is a corner case.

 

[Photon440]

I have you on ignore because of you uncontrollable need to try to "correct" everyone and everything on these boards, but I could not resist seeing what you tried to cherry pick out of my post.
Really? A roadster? Well a Neon was under 2600lbs. Maybe we should stick to comparable vehicles? A Dodge Rampage was 2400lbs, and that is sort of a truck. A Durango is a body on frame truck configured as an SUV, even the fully loaded R/T models in 2003 were around 4400lbs with full time AWD. Lots of cargo room, and ability to tow, 4wd, high ground clearance, truck type seating.
The Cybertruck is more than 1000lbs heavier, if we want to try to compare something at least resembling a Durango.If we want to go to the decked out awd cybertruck it is something like 6500lbs. And it gets stuck on a ten degree slope in 3" of snow. No, I don;t care if it can tow more, I have an 8.1/Allison crew cab for that with comparitively unlimited range.
A Tesla Model X, which might be something sort of in the SUV range, is over 5000lbs.

And I am not looking for a decked out 2003 with full time AWD, my ideal choice would be one from the late 90's that can run in rwd, or possibly even a 2wd model. By the time I am done removing the running boards I don't like, the rear seat I don't need or want, redoing the sound deadening with modern materials, ditching the multi-amp'd factory radio for something simple, ditching the bulky factory exhaust, maybe even the AC, I wil not be even close to factory weight. But even if I was, it would be 300lbs lighter than the model Y, and have substantially more capability in winter.

This is why you are on ignore. You can't help but try to "correct" everyone, and you will compare apples and oranges to do it and ignore context, like end use, cost of repairs, entry level pricing, etc. You pick one arbitrary item and fabricate some type of argument around it. It's tiresome. Have a nice day.

LOL at finding a current model year EV Charger battery module in 50 years. I dropped the Optima blue top out of my dump trailer into the Monaco last week to move it out of the shop for the afternoon. Then I put it back. You are joking about comparing them right?


But it's fine, to each their own. I think personally the only current EV's we will see in 50 years will be battery-absent sitting in a museum. maybe someone with endless money will want one for their complete collection. But it will not resemble the current collector market where every single auction at least one Charger rolls across. As for car culture going away, tomorrow I am going to the largest hot rod show in the state and it will be mostly populated by people under the age of 40. In WI, the millenials and gen Z are building rat rods out of whatever they can find that has not returned to the earth, and they drive them to work in the summer. Giant cities have maybe forgotten their soul but in the rural areas the highways still equate freedom.

Calm down, Detective. You said a Durango was 1,000 pounds lighter than a Tesla, but failed to mention which model. I merely pointed out not all are that heavy. If you feel that means that you're being 'corrected', take it however you like. Of course if you want to pull lots of weight out of your Durango, that's fine. But it isn't what you first stated.

 

[furious70]

My Durango is 5500lbs I think. Hellcat drivetrain adds a few pounds but competes with all but the tri motor setups.
And I still want the Banshee model for under $70k based on the pricing they announced today.
Or a redeye powered one.... I'm easy to please

 

[Pecos Bill]

Dodge just released the 6 pack, 6 cyl Chargers.

 

[chargervert]

Dodge just released the 6 pack, 6 cyl Chargers.

That is painful to hear!

 

[Photon440]

Dodge just released the 6 pack, 6 cyl Chargers.

At least we know now that they're 1,000 pounds lighter than the EV versions, which should improve handling. But even though it burns gas and can do a 12.2 quarter mile, I can't afford a new car these days.