VIN/Fender Tag/Numbers Matching...1968 RR

[stuka1166]

Seems like in 1968, there is some confusion on VIN/Fender Tag/Trunk #/Radiator Support #/Engine #/ETC...IF I were to check my 68' RR to see if it were actually numbers matching...Where would I look, and what #'s need to correspond, to be confident in knowing it is a TRUE numbers matching car ???

It would help me sleep better !!

Thanks !!!

 

[Richard Cranium]

The body stamping numbers located on the left side of the upper radiator support and under the trunk gasket (also on the left side) will correspond with the order number on the fender tag. The dash VIN numbers will be stamped on the engine block on the bellhousing flange by the oil pressure sender & on the side of the transmission (most likely right side).

 

[cdr]

also the only way to match all #'s together is with the build sheet.

 

[62MAX]

The body stamping numbers located on the left side of the upper radiator support and under the trunk gasket (also on the left side) will correspond with the order number on the fender tag. The dash VIN numbers will be stamped on the engine block on the bellhousing flange by the oil pressure sender & on the side of the transmission (most likely right side).

1969 was first year block was matched to vin number.

 

[Richard Cranium]

1969 was first year block was matched to vin number.

Not true. My 68 hemi Charger (late car) has the VIN stamped on the block & transmission.

 

[patrick66]

1968 was the first year of VIN stampings on the engine and transmission, and this was a result of then-new Federal law (FMVSS).

1969 was the first year that the full VIN appeared on the fender tag, however.

 

[stuka1166]

So last night I "attempted" to track down numbers on my 68' RR...I read a guide on tracking them down and where to look. I got confused with the VIN and SO #'s...Apparently in 68' they used SO instead of VIN on the components ??

I could only find the casting # on the block which coincides with the car.

I looked at the # on the radiator support...It matched nothing on the VIN or Fender Tag.

I tried to look at the # on the trunk...It had so much paint on it, I couldn't make it out.

I'm just trying to validate the car, so that when it sells, I can be confident in what I have to the potential buyer.

IF there is anything else I can do...I would appreciate some insight.

Thanks !!!

 

[patrick66]

Negative. The PARTIAL VIN is on the block and the trans case both. It'll read something like 8A105486 - year, plant, sequential build number. The last eight characters of the VIN.

 

[PP1RT]

If your engine is a 68 look at the top rear of the motor slightly to the side of center near the oil pressure sender. The tranny would be stamped in the same area but to the opposite side of center. Do you have 383HP stamped on the front of the block? If so is there a letter before the 383?

 

[stuka1166]

I'll do my best to check out the numbers...So I AM looking for the VIN or part of it on the engine and trans ??

Thanks !!

 

[monaco66coupe]

as mentioned earlier, Mine have the last eight of the vin on the eng, and transmission bell housing.(automatic) drivers side left of oil sending unit.

 

[stuka1166]

So the #'s on the engine are toward the back where the tranny meets ??

 

[monaco66coupe]

yes. behind the valve cover, and throttle linkage bracket. the numbers will be on the rear lip, across from each other, where the eng/trans meet.

 

[69Coronetrt]

The body stamping numbers located on the left side of the upper radiator support and under the trunk gasket (also on the left side) will correspond with the order number on the fender tag. The dash VIN numbers MAY be stamped on the engine block on the bellhousing flange by the oil pressure sender & on the side of the transmission (most likely right side).

Not all 68's have a VIN stamp on the block.

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also the only way to match all #'s together is with the build sheet.

Or the window sticker or an IBM card.

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So the #'s on the engine are toward the back where the tranny meets ??

pic showing partial VIN on '68 block and automatic transmission. A manual transmission will have the VIN on the passenger's side pad.

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I looked at the # on the radiator support...It matched nothing on the VIN or Fender Tag.

I'm just trying to validate the car, so that when it sells, I can be confident in what I have to the potential buyer.

Look for something like this. First letter indicates the plant where the car was built. The 8 = 1968 model year. X= car line I.E X for Charger, W for Coronet, R for Belvedere, etc. Then last 6 numbers are the SO that should be on the fender tag. "Validate" the car? You mean you do not know what you are trying to sell?

 

[patrick66]

Not all 68's have a VIN stamp on the block.

Yes, they do, as it was Federal law to have them. If it doesn't, it is a warranty block or an earlier engine someone installed. You then need to see what the casting date on the block or the trans case is.

 

[cdr]

sorry patrick66 but you are wrong,, 69coronetrt knows what he is talking about, you need to do your research.

 

[monaco66coupe]

I believe in 1968 it was voluntary, but were being phased in. as To my knowledge no Chevys ,and definitiely not the two Fords I hate to admit owning had any vin's on the block that I owned(1968) However, the 68's (mopar)I have owned or do own do have them. Chrysler was much better at stamping numbers then the other manufacturers. GTO's are notoriously easy to fabricate, as are Chevelle SS's. That's why GM guys own Mopars!!!!

 

[69Coronetrt]

Yes, they do, as it was Federal law to have them. If it doesn't, it is a warranty block or an earlier engine someone installed. You then need to see what the casting date on the block or the trans case is.

The subject of VIN stampings on 1968 model year blocks is very controversial especially when it comes to HP vs non HP blocks. To my knowledge, no credible research has been done as to when VINs were stamped at which plants and on which engines.

I would very much like to hear from an owner of a '68 car that has a /6 or 318 with a VIN stamp.

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I believe in 1968 it was voluntary, but were being phased in. as To my knowledge no Chevys ,and definitiely not the two Fords I hate to admit owning had any vin's on the block that I owned(1968) However, the 68's (mopar)I have owned or do own do have them. Chrysler was much better at stamping numbers then the other manufacturers. GTO's are notoriously easy to fabricate, as are Chevelle SS's. That's why GM guys own Mopars!!!!

I've heard many different theories as to why some 68's have them and some don't. Some people claim that it was required as of 1/1/68 and that is why 'early' cars do not have them and 'later' cars do. Yet, you will find VIN stamps on early built cars from the STL plant.

I've heard it was an HP vs non HP thing.

 

[patrick66]

The requirement was there, starting in the model year 1968 on ALL engines and transmissions installed in new cars in the US. It does NOT matter a lick if it was a high-perf 440 engine, or a one-barrel 225. I know what I am speaking of here.

Specifically, it is in FMVSS Standard #115, which talks about VINs.

 

[69Coronetrt]

The requirement was there, starting in the model year 1968 on ALL engines and transmissions installed in new cars in the US. It sis NOT matter a lick if it was a high-perf 440 engine, or a one-barrel 225. I know what I am speaking of here.

Cool. I'd love to see a picture of a /6 or 318 with VIN stamp.