Where the Superbird's a real factory car?

[Jerry Hall]

Refer to @dadsbee post. I don't know for sure, but I think the Superbird left the factory as a 70 RR with a 70 Coronet front clip. All body modifications and vinyl top. were done at Clairpoint. This includes the rear window plug, nose, fender scoops, and all Superbird specific parts. I may be wrong as the 70 Coronet fenders were also modified.

 

[dadsbee]

They had "aerodynamic" rear windows in modified C pillars.

Someone had to do that sheet metal work or new panels were stamped.

It's a "plug" welded in right over top of the original window opening... note here the old double curve pinch weld !

 

[YY1]

Oooooh. I've never seen that before.

 

[Jerry Hall]

When I disassembled my one owner original Superbird the only paint deviation was the nose cone and front spoiler being a slightly different shade. At the time, I assumed just age, but soon found from research that the nose wasn't factory painted.

 

[R413]

The Superbirds were made at Chryslers Lynch Road plant with specific VIN, VON. They started life as a Superbird, not a converted road runner. Superbirds are called "road runner superbird" by Chrysler.

The cars had modified 1970 coronet fenders, and a 70 coronet hood with an extension added to it. They cars were painted at the plant with enamel. The nose, lower fender extensions and wing was painted at Clairpointe with lacquer, they did not totally match the car.

Superbirds had on the fender tag V19 vinyl top code. No other Chrysler car has that code in 1970. And a VON that started with the letter J. Sales code A13 on the build sheet and window sticker.

 

[R413]

Daytonas were made at Chrysler Hamtramck plant and started life as a Charger Daytona. A11 on the fender tag denotes Daytona package. The window sticker says this car is a Charger
Daytona.

 

[gtx6970]

Its my understanding
Daytona's all the mods were done offsite from the Wing, window plug to nose cone

Birds had the plug welded in and vinyl top installed on the standard production line
Fenders and nose cone, and wing were done offsite

Im not a wingcar guru by any means so my info may not be 100% accurate

 

[GTX JOHN]

NASCAR required 500 units to be consider production
at that time.

I seem to recall only 392 or so Charger 500 were built but they were
accepted. (I have owed 4 between 69 and 77).

 

[YY1]

There's also the rumor that they counted the Charger 500's again, as Daytonas.

 

[turbine68rt]

Winged Warriors/National B-Body Owners Association - Building The Road Runner SuperBird Winged Warriors/National B-Body Owners Association - Building The Road Runner SuperBird

 

[69Coronetrt]

The Superbirds were made at Chryslers Lynch Road plant with specific VIN, VON. They started life as a Superbird, not a converted road runner. Superbirds are called "road runner superbird" by Chrysler.

Superbirds had on the fender tag V19 vinyl top code. No other Chrysler car has that code in 1970. And a VON that started with a J and went in oreder like the VIN numbers did. So a car 30 away in VIN would be 30 away in VON also. A13 on the build sheet and window sticker.

Given that Superbirds carry the same RM23*0A VIN layout as regular Road Runners, there is no way to tell a Superbird solely from the VIN like you can with XX29 VINned Daytonas and Charger 500s.

The only exceptions are the 440-4bbl U code 440-4bbl Superbirds as there were, supposedly, no regular production RM23U0A cars built.

You have to have a list of VINs assigned to Superbirds to know which specific Hemi or 440-6 VIN falls in a range of Superbirds. There are plenty of RM23 R and V code Road Runners built during the same time frame as the Superbirds and have similar 150XXX-180XXX ViNs

I'm not going to dig through hundreds of Superbird tags to find a specific example but given that the 999 paint cars have J99 series VONs and not J97 or J98 VONs I'm pretty sure you could find examples of the VINs and VONs not tracking consecutively. Car 123456 with a J97 VON could be followed by car 123457 with a J99 VON.

Given that VONs are repurposed across other makes, VONs used on Plymouth Superbirds may also appear on other makes.

Again, I'm not going to build a spread sheet but given how VINs and VONs generally do not track sequentially for other package cars ('69 A12s, '69 M code A bodies, '70 Hursts), I'm reasonably sure you would find other examples of how Superbird VINs and VINs do not correlate 100%.

 

[R413]

Ok great, sorry for the mis info, I'll change my post.

 

[kiwigtx]

I'm not into conspiracy theories, and since some are chucking around bad information.....