Which muscle car is ugly?

[33 IMP]

I was horrified to find out this car existed, but in retrospect it is one of the few small RWD 80's cars. It's not uglier than a base Fox body Mustang. The lines are pretty clean actually. A talented builder could turn the image of these cars around.



The styling was developed for a more cab-forward car, the FWD/AWD Camaro that GM cancelled. One of the greatest missed opportunities in automotive history IMO. The FWD/AWD Camaro drivetrain could have been carried over as the performance version of GM's FWD passenger cars. The 90's could have been a new muscle car era for GM, and those cars would be collectible today. Instead they are either crushed or living out their last days as poor people hoopties.

Sox and Martin actually did a pro-stock version of the Mitsu challenger. I wonder where that car is now.....?

 

[Photon440]

Don't forget the Plymouth version - the Sapporo

 

[YY1]

I've seen a 340 4 speed transplanted Sapporo/Challenger.

The only clues were dual exhaust, and aluminum slots.

 

[68Moparmaniac]

Makes you wonder if the dodge designers were part of the MKUltra lsd experiments.

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A face only a mother could love...

 

[JR_Charger]

See, not a bad alternative to the Fox body Mustang.

Cars from the 80's and 90's are getting hot, so why not the Mitsu Challenger? How many are left at this point? I don't think I've ever seen one.

 

[JR_Charger]

A face only a mother could love...

It isn't pretty, but it's so out there. I can love it for the weirdness.

 

[Photon440]

I'm not a fan of the name, or stripe, but at least the 2023 King Daytona has 807 HP. They've managed to make it look like a stretched VW Beetle in this shot.

 

[JR_Charger]

I'd be fine with that car if it was a Magnum or Coronet.

 

[Photon440]

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See, not a bad alternative to the Fox body Mustang.

Cars from the 80's and 90's are getting hot, so why not the Mitsu Challenger? How many are left at this point? I don't think I've ever seen one.

Speaking of non E-body Challengers, have you ever seen a 1985 Plymouth 'Cuda? They built only two of them.

This white one, and a red one. Using the same suspension and engine as the Shelby turbo Chargers, but without the Shelby name on the engine. Plymouth was ready to sell it, until Shelby saw it and said he didn't want competition for his cars coming from inside the company. And he thought the Plymouth name would cheapen it. So it was axed.

 

[YY1]

My friend, a former editor of Mopar Muscle and a few other mags, said the dealer he worked at back then made a Road Runner version of 2 door Horizons.

I believe he said the made 14.

 

[chargervert]

Speaking of non E-body Challengers, have you ever seen a 1985 Plymouth 'Cuda? They built only two of them.
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This white one, and a red one. Using the same suspension and engine as the Shelby turbo Chargers, but without the Shelby name on the engine. Plymouth was ready to sell it, until Shelby saw it and said he didn't want competition for his cars coming from inside the company. And he thought the Plymouth name would cheapen it. So it was axed.
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They made two too many,why drag the iconic Cuda name through the mud?

 

[440 PHIXX]

They made two too many,why drag the iconic Cuda name through the mud?

They did drag the Charger name through the mud… I could have had this instead of my ‘70 E87 D21 in 1985 for only $8000. I paid $1200 for the ‘70.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Don't forget the Plymouth version - the Sapporo
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My dad bought two of them new, a '78 and an '83. He drove Mopars for over 50 years, but his tastes and mine were always opposite ends of the spectrum. Toss up for his favorites were a 1960 Valiant sedan, and a 1993 Plymouth Voyager minivan.

 

[chargervert]

They did drag the Charger name through the mud… I could have had this instead of my ‘70 E87 D21 in 1985 for only $8000. I paid $1200 for the ‘70. View attachment 1349938

I don't want to name names, but I heard that one of our esteemed members traded in a V code 70 Challenger R/T shaker car for one of those Shelby Chargers!

 

[Mackman]

70 1/2 Camaro. Butt ugly.

 

[chargervert]

70 1/2 Camaro. Butt ugly.

My friend just sold one for 40k,I'm pretty sure people like them. I saw Courtney driving a 70 and a half Z/28 on her new show on Motortrend,last night her and the car looked great!

 

[Photon440]

70 1/2 Camaro. Butt ugly.

I did not mind the second gen. Camaro at all. I can see where the Vega got it's looks from though.

 

[Gus chiggins]

I'd be fine with that car if it was a Magnum or Coronet.

Fury would have been a better name. Yes, I know, Fury was Plymouth.

 

[Gus chiggins]

70 1/2 Camaro. Butt ugly.

Actually, no the 70 1/2 camaro was a nice looking car. I owned a 76 Laguna type S3 for a short time. It had swivel buckets. It was a slug performance wise, but nice looking

 

[JR_Charger]

Speaking of non E-body Challengers, have you ever seen a 1985 Plymouth 'Cuda? They built only two of them.
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This white one, and a red one. Using the same suspension and engine as the Shelby turbo Chargers, but without the Shelby name on the engine. Plymouth was ready to sell it, until Shelby saw it and said he didn't want competition for his cars coming from inside the company. And he thought the Plymouth name would cheapen it. So it was axed.
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Nope, never heard of the 85 Cuda. When it comes to these cars, IMO Chrysler did a good job considering what they were up against with regulations, the insurance industry, and gas prices. I'd like to own a Shelby Charger, or a regular one with mods.

Fury would have been a better name. Yes, I know, Fury was Plymouth.

I'd be willing to accept "Fury," but the "Magnum" name was current for the time. I can't recall how much overlap there was between the Magnum wagon and the Charger, but I see no problem with sharing the name.