who has installed a Borgeson ps box?

[davek]

so I am ready to buy the Borgeson ps box. Switching to manual to ps. I have the ps pump,brackets and pulley and switching column. So I need ps box,hoses and coupler. The coupler is my question which one? I dont want to collapse my shaft so what did you buy?Also do I need a new pitman arm? 1970 Bee-440 no headers thanks Dave

 

[Thunder65]

One of the best upgrades I have done.

 

[SDCoronet]

The bought the whole kit from Bergman. It included his extended coupler that fit my shaft without modifications. I don't know if this is what you need though.

I used my original pitman arm no problem.

http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0010
[URL]http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0009[/URL]

 

[davek]

The bought the whole kit from Bergman. It included his extended coupler that fit my shaft without modifications. I don't know if this is what you need though.

I used my original pitman arm no problem.

http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0010
http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0009

Free shipping? Nope

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Just a note when installing.. Leave the steering gear loose. Do not tighten it down until you get your steering shaft in place. Its kind of a pain in the *** if you have it tight before. Here are some pictures for you of the install I did.

 

[dan juhasz]

I just finished doing mine, manual to power, bought everything from borgeson including their coupler, once box is in loosen the column (You will be removing it) with it loose you can make the measurement of exactly how much of the original shaft will be cut off. Mark it and take out the column, make you cut, slide on their coupler, they provide the drill bit and roll pins to triple pin the coupler to the shaft. Get ready for a big improvement!
Just follow the old saying measure twice cut once, I measured three times

 

[Kern Dog]

Lots of guys do NOT want to cut their steering shaft. Count ME as one of those guys.

 

[68 Sport Satellite]

Don’t cut the shaft. Buy the kit from Bergman that includes the custom designed coupling to fit this that looks from the outside like our stock couplers. I think Rick Ehrenberg from mopar action helped design the coupling from what I’ve read.

 

[68 Sport Satellite]

Here you go
http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0010

 

[Don selleck]

i cut mine didn't hurt a bit.

 

[Kern Dog]

i cut mine didn't hurt a bit.

The point is...cutting the shaft makes for a permanent change. The hybrid coupler allows the owner to revert back to stock if ever the need arises.

 

[andyf]

I'm in the process of installing one in my '65 Coronet. I rebuilt my steering column and swapped in a PS shaft rather than cut my original MS shaft down. The factory PS pump won't fit on my engine so I'm working on fabricating a mount for a Type II pump. Once I get the pump mounted then I can source the correct hoses and fittings. I'm not a big fan of the fact that the box sits at an angle to the steering shaft but I guess that is just how it has to be. You should be able to reuse your existing Pittman arm if you buy the correct box. Measure your steering shaft and order the same size on the new PS box. It should be the small shaft since you have a manual steer car but it is always a good idea to double check before you order.

 

[andyf]

The point is...cutting the shaft makes for a permanent change. The hybrid coupler allows the owner to revert back to stock if ever the need arises.

PS columns are probably more common than manual steer columns so a person should be able to find another column to part out. I don't know of anyone who is making new steering shafts although it wouldn't be a super difficult part to mfg. Especially the early years that were solid shafts. Those are fairly simple lathe parts. I parted out a 1965 Coronet with a PS column more than 20 years ago and still had the spare column sitting in my shop so I just took it apart and used the PS shaft when I rebuilt the original column in my car. It needed a rebuild anyway since the seals were shot and the turn signal cancel cam was busted. I also replaced the steering wheel at the same time since my original was cracked in multiple places. I should have mine back on the road in a couple of months.

 

[davek]

thanks to all

 

[davek]

The bought the whole kit from Bergman. It included his extended coupler that fit my shaft without modifications. I don't know if this is what you need though.

I used my original pitman arm no problem.

http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0010
http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0009

I thought manual and ps have different pitman arms.

 

[dan juhasz]

Lots of guys do NOT want to cut their steering shaft. Count ME as one of those guys.

My car was manual , you can either buy a power steering shaft which is shorter or cut the shaft. The bergman coupler works fine is your car already has power steering and you just want to get rid of the vague factory box.
At least in my case I couldn't imagine a scenario why I would ever want to return it to manual.

 

[davek]

my car is manual steering that is why Im asking about the pitman arm.

 

[andyf]

my car is manual steering that is why Im asking about the pitman arm.

If your Pittman arm is in good shape then buy the box that fits your Pittman arm.

 

[davek]

ok I didnt know that they were the same. thanks

 

[Mr Belvedere]

If your manual shaft is collapsible, there really shouldn't be a problem collapsing it to the length needed (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't remember when they switched. Like already mentioned a PS shaft should be easy to find for your application as well if the former isn't in the cards.

I had to cut the shaft on my 64 which is solid. Have the bergman coupler. Between the coupler and the ability to move the column in or out it doesn't have to be that exact, just close. There's a bit of angle, like Andyf said, but it doesn't seem to be an issue at all. Also I have the QA1 K.