Would sea level drop if we.....

[Photon440]

Methinks you might be one of these guys.....

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That is from the 1950's and was a bigger island before that time. Now all gone.

Yeah swallowed up. Yeah subsidence and yeah sea level rise on top of that.

But the point that the evidence asked for can be provided and when provided is discounted as not worthy is pretty amusing.

I'm signing out for a bit and will be back later. So crickets for the time being. Probably should post another question and follow it with the little crickets that I enjoy so much.

Those guys picked the wrong island. These ones are rising. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20170414-the-black-islands-rising-from-the-sea

 

[Jcharger]

That is so cool!

I figured they must exist (probably also in Hudson's bay region), but couldn't find them.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Those guys picked the wrong island. These ones are rising. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20170414-the-black-islands-rising-from-the-sea

Black Islands matter.

 

[Budnicks]

follow the real science

 

[wahya]

I am not a scientist, although I do occasionally play one on TV. My background is in political science, which happens to be an ideal background for examining man-made global warming claims and their so- called “solutions.

This guy?

 

[Jcharger]

Out of curiosity, I looked up the article that Budnicks posted and I also looked at the original article. Both argue for warming, but at the lower end of the IPCC range. If I read correctly, it is 0.2 degrees per decade. I think the question was is it 0.2 or 0.3 degrees per decade. This is still significant and it doesn't refute the warming. It also matches with the general trends in the NASA/NOAA based figures I posted.

Moreover, the original scientific article says: "The GISTEMP data set, and the totally independent satellite-based AIRS surface skin temperature data set, are very consistent with each over the past 15 years. Both data sets demonstrate that the Earth's surface has been warming globally over this time period, and that 2016, 2017, and 2015 have been the warmest years in the instrumental record, in that order." which I read as basically saying that the satellite date from this source match the ground based data very well. So the real science does in fact support the warming.

I was initially puzzled because it looked like it might not confirm this. I was curious because it looked like an inconsistency, but on a closer look it is just the title of the article and some of the wording in the news source (CFACT - their mission is listed as being a positive alternative voice on issues of environment and development) article that are a little confusing for a reader that does not go back to the original sources. I am not going to second guess the original authors, but it looks like CFACT put their spin on the story.

 

[kiwigtx]

I know I said I'd go, but I had a thought when I went to the can.

Discussing climate change on a car forum brings out the bad in me.

I am sure we would get along swimmingly if we were discussing cars.

Swimmingly seems appropriate in this thread.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Swimmingly seems appropriate in this thread.

 

[kiwigtx]

 

[WileE]

I just watched a documentary of the relocation of Isle De Jean Charles Louisiana. And there were still some dumbasses saying they don't believe even when standing in knee deep of water. You know. YOUR CROWD. Blaining Democrats. It's unbelievable. Even when Army Corps of engineers standing explaining the gulf is gobbling them up.

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Nice try. QUOTE: "The Bayou State loses about a football field’s worth of land to erosion about every hour and a half. " Ohh.... I didn't even know I had A CROWD ! Cool.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Muddy, sandy, silty soil is one thing - it's called erosion, as noted above. And, things sink in soft mud. That, is called gravity.

NYC, and other "tall skyline" cities, are built on bedrock. They have to be, to support the skyscrapers. THOSE cities, are not "sinking".

Funny how that works.

 

[DeltaV]

It can still sink and apparently is sinking.

https://interestingengineering.com/7-sinking-cities-around-the-world

 

[Cranky]

Muddy, sandy, silty soil is one thing - it's called erosion, as noted above. And, things sink in soft mud. That, is called gravity.

NYC, and other "tall skyline" cities, are built on bedrock. They have to be, to support the skyscrapers. THOSE cities, are not "sinking".

Funny how that works.

Some places rise and some places sink. How deep does the bed rock go that is under NYC? I'd like to see something that shows that all of NYC is staying the same all over the area. I bet some areas of that city are sinking.....

 

[Budnicks]

& there's not 'one ******* thing' any of US can do about it
just throwing $$$ at it hasn't worked for the past 100 years

we can only control man-made ****

we can't control what the weather does
(some falsely claim to be climate change)
or what the sun or our moon does
(both are a huge part of all of it)
or the winds crossing the sands off N. Africa
where most of it (east coast weather here) starts
& effects US here
or any other natural or geological effects,
volcanoes or earthquakes or mountains growing-up or eroding
or rising seas (most is nonsense) or Ice ages or warming spells
that are accounting for 99.9% of all of it, it's been happening
since the bigging of "Mother Earth" herself, we can't control any of it

we can't do **** about 'Mother Nature' or her powers
only a fool believes we can do (control) that ****
it's all about the $$$, fleecing the bleeding hearts out of theirs

follow the $$$ it never lies

Earth will be here long after even all the eco-nazis, doomsday a--holes
are all long gone

insanity is doing the same thing over & over again
with the same results & ignorantly expecting a different outcome

it never works, not concerning "Mother Nature"

Conservation has been thrown out the window
for preservation
for a select group of elites controlling & getting filthy rich off it
you all know the names & faces already

 

[f569]

Lived here in NYC (almost 6 decades) all my life. The last 20 years on Long Island, 10 minutes from the shore. Haven't seen or heard a peep of anybody losing any ground at all. East side, west side, battery park, any of the 5 boroughs. Have witnessed some beach erosion but that is mainly after storms and such. Nothing a jetty or a bunch of dozers wasn't able to fix.
I refuse to let the sky is falling crowd constantly ruin my day. I do recall some of the more affluent ones buying multi million dollar beach front properties though.
I'm no expert, just an observer. What the hell do I know? Man made or not human ingenuity will eventually prevail.

 

[Cranky]

Galveston must be sinking.......

 

[DeltaV]

One of my electives in college was oceanography. A good textbook, a boating field trip, and an experienced, intelligent professor made it a great course.

 

[Cojohnso1]

Lived here in NYC (almost 6 decades) all my life. The last 20 years on Long Island, 10 minutes from the shore. Haven't seen or heard a peep of anybody losing any ground at all. East side, west side, battery park, any of the 5 boroughs. Have witnessed some beach erosion but that is mainly after storms and such. Nothing a jetty or a bunch of dozers wasn't able to fix.
I refuse to let the sky is falling crowd constantly ruin my day. I do recall some of the more affluent ones buying multi million dollar beach front properties though.
I'm no expert, just an observer. What the hell do I know? Man made or not human ingenuity will eventually prevail.

The rise is not as measurable in all areas. It's VERY dependent on ocean shelf. But overall. It's rising.

I also agree and believe science snd engineering can and will solve our most pressing issues. It may not in time to combat all negative effects. We will have to absorb some pain. As we have since the time of man.

I also believe we are living in the time of remarkable discovery. If anything. Technology might be outgrowing our maturity to manage. Social media is a great example. With gains in technology, come responsibility that science sometimes doesn't always take into account. I can think of many examples. From medical to space exploration advancements.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Cities are emerging that have not been above water for a few thousand years. Explain this to them.

 

[Sam69sat]