By the way, Im with you, DWilbur - I was / am on a very tight budget and every roadrunner I looked at that was even close to my budget was a rusted hulk that I'd end up with $40k and the better part of a decade long resto into it before I could even dream of driving it. So I found a '69 belvedere 100% complete / runs / drives / stops / zero rust with the things I wanted (big block, mini tub, 4 link, etc) and well under my $10k - $12k budget and just went with that. Sure, I got screwed with the motor (see some of my older threads), and sure, no one grows up dreaming about a '69 belvedere, but I get to drive it as I work on it and it's a very fun and manageable project that only eats the budget I allow it to. But hey, now I get to build the motor my way and bonus, the car 'feels like' the 69 roadrunner I always wanted. Happy Moparing!