smoking/nonsmoking

[bigredbird]

I got the attitude after trying to be respectful and they still complain of f--k ya you don't like it you move.

Well, the difference is that they're breathing (relatively) fresh air, and we're not, and we're doing that by choice. But if they're forced to breathe our air when we exercise OUR choice, then they don't have the same freedom of choice that we have.

So the win-win solution that preserves everybody's right to choose is for US to move, not them.

 

[Ron 73]

Tell-em to stick it, you stay away from the people and the building trying to be respectful, they should learn the same quality's, show me respect, you'll get it, its not a one way street.

 

[loneagle]

I agree I been smokeing for years and ill tell you that the non smokers bit#@ and complain if you go outside and smoke they do the same if you do it inside also the ones that need to grow up is them they have the choice as do we I'm smokeing move away if you don't like it I respect others but if I'm outside at Carlisle for instance I won't blow my smoke in your face so don't get in mine its not bothering you but oh yea your perfume is disgusting and its killing my smell and giveing me a headache but I don't say anything thus just move away from me

 

[tpodwdog]

I used to date a girl who would always smoke after we had sex.

i take it she didnt smoke that much?....lol

i smoke,,,,have been for the past 40 years....yes im 48 but i was a young hoodlum. im also a construction worker ( union carpenter). im on a job right now in a county that has a " no public smoking" law. the building is not "occupied"....so we should be able to smoke. i have been told a hundred times not to smoke in the building ,,,but i do it anyway. if i had to go outside to smoke,,,nothing would get done and IM NOT GOING 8 HOURS WITH OUT A CIGARETTE.....so there......waddayathinkaboutthat?

i think there should be a " no breast feeding in public" law....theres nothing more disgusting than to have some fat assed welfare recipient...or anyone else for that matter having their kid sucking on what i call,,,,GROSS TITS. ....while im trying to have dinner in a restaurant....WADDAYATHINKABOUTTHAT ???

I ALSO THINK THERE SHOULD BE A " NO SCREAMING AND CRYING AND RUNNING RAMPID" KIDS LAW

this desreves a whoa bundy......so....WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAA BUNDYYYYYYYYYYY!:headbang:

 

[Richard Cranium]

Don't be so stingy with the lube!:ky:

It's about time someone commented on that!

 

[MAGNUM GT XS22L9R]

I smoke a couple of cigs a day (literally, two) out in the back yard only, and got to that number by giving up the fight about smoking in public. What finally got to me was a little girl in Chicago when I was standing near a few dozen people at a red light, and I had a lit cig cupped in my hand. She started coughing and said to her mom, "I can't breathe" in a voice like I was murdering her. If looks could kill I would've been stabbed by everyone there. At that point it didn't matter who was right or wrong anymore; I was the only guy with a cigarette and didn't want to feel like a scumbag anymore. Now I don't even think about smoking during the stretch between 7am and 10pm.

OK, one day I had to work with this self serving lib! He knew
me from the past. I show up and he starts performing as soon
as there were enough people in the room?! Coughing, choking
and making a big deal that I stunk of smoke from me visiting
my smoker mom???? The problem with that was this A-hole
never bathed or washed his clothes, and worst yet, his black
lab(dog) would sleep on them. He'd wear them to work and he
totally stunk??? So how the hell could he smell smoke on me??
LMAO!

If someone starts preforming next to you when your smoking,
that's all it is, a performance! Shame on that mother for teaching
her child to do that!!!!

I have two children, if one of my kids did that I'd be mortified!

 

[Basket case]

I never smoked. I thank my Mom's habit for that. You wanna smoke, that's your choice. Just don't do it when I'm eating. And just put your butts in the ash tray when you're done. Where I work there are spots for the smokers. a blind man could find the spots for all the butts on the ground.....right next to the ash trays.

 

[cr8crshr]

Reformed smoker here. Been 6 years since I completely quit. Previous attempts lasted far shorter than this last cessation. What put me over the top was right after I quit...about 14 days or so...I was at my office desk when a fellow service member came in to ask about something. He funkin' reeked of smoke. I asked myself so this is how I smelled to others that either quit or never smoked. I hated that smell and it lingered in my senses for the next few days. Now I know just how tough of a habit it is to quit. It is a vile, filthy, messy, and down right annoying habit. I cannot stand the smell of any tobacco being smoked. Just a whiff of it and I go nuts. I can even get a whiff when someone is smoking in their car and the smoke will waft over in my direction. There is nothing more putrid than the smell. All that being said, I choose not to be in the area where someone is smoking. Even at the Golf course, I won't play with smokers. I chose to quit. My choice and believe me the health benefits far out weigh the arguments already posted here. Tobacco is a very bad product. It has outlived its usefulness in our society as a commodity and Agri crop. Smoking should be banned completely in the US. Have any of you been to Europe and experienced how much smoking takes place there. You can't even go to a Pub without it reeking of smoke. Don't try and preach that it is a "CHOICE" to pollute the area with that crap. I hate it and will always hate it. This is coming from a reformed smoker so I do know of what I speak. The only thing that has been proven to be of worth with regards to Tobacco is what the Israelis have been using in their battle field first aid kits. A Poultice bandage the will suppress bruising and bleeding that is made from Tobacco. So to all those who have posted here in this topic...Go ahead and smoke em if ya got em. Just don't do it around me. And OH just ******* quit the nasty habit altogether. The money you save...now that is a topic for discussion...and the health benefits one will receive far outweigh any argument presented. Simply a moot point.....

 

[bigredbird]

Shame on that mother for teaching her child to do that!!!! I have two children, if one of my kids did that I'd be mortified!

Except that my smoke was drifting straight into the kid's face, and she genuinely was choking on it. She wasn't a trained monkey, she was a really cute little 4 or 5 year old. And my heart's not made of stone.

 

[Budnicks]

Nanny State PC ****, Freedom of Choice

What about freedom of choice ??, Far more people are effected by many, many other health related issues everyday, that far exceed any tobacco related issue, it's way over blown PC Nanny State ****{IMHO}... Way more people die from alcohol related issues, than tobacco will ever cause, you don't ever see a big Nanny State uproar, about making alcohol illegal, "wait they must be big contributors"...LOL... There are many other lung related issues that get blamed or bulked in with or onto tobacco, or are contributory to tobacco, in the Lung Cancer campaign, because many of the smokers effected were also in the automotive repair, construction, welding, fabrication, auto body, chemical industries, all have serious heath issues, many lung related also, among many others that had also contributed to the problem, Tobacco was the PC target... Some people are just much more prone to lung cancer & other tobacco related heath issues than others, with some genetic thing or something that makes us what we all are, we are all different, in so many ways, not everyone is effected the same way... I'm not saying tobacco doesn't cause health problem, it obviously does, so do many, many other things that are excepted as OK by the PC crowd or Nanny State types, but there are far more important issues at hand to worry about, then smokers &/or tobacco issues... For now anyway, we are still a free state, so to speak, that right is being eroded more & more everyday, remember the saying, "freedom of choice", we once all use to have, that saying actually use to mean something, I guess that old quote from days of yore, is a long past memory of the good old days, before the NANNY STATE crap we all have now.... I had a Granddad that smoked, drank, ate bacon every morning, drank real Coke when it had Coca in it, drove cars when they had no seat belts or air bags or safety glass even, drove on Bay Area roads for 80+ years {that in itself is truly dangerous}, then worked at/for Shell Oil at refineries & Shell Oil construction sites for 50+ years as an Engineer, had unprotected sex {sorry I had to throw that one in, remember when that was safe}, he lived to the ripe old age of 99 died a few days before his 100th b/d, of natural causes, he had a great old sayings, "anything in moderation" & "you only live life once, live life at the fullest everyday", "if you enjoy it do it, with no regrets" EX-SMOKER :headbang: rant over, if you got em', smoke em', just be respectful of others....

 

[furyfrank]

What about freedom of choice ??, Far more people are effected by many, many other health related issues everyday, that far exceed any tobacco related issue, it's way over blown PC Nanny State ****{IMHO}... Way more people die from alcohol related issues, than tobacco will ever cause, you don't ever see a big Nanny State uproar, about making alcohol illegal, "wait they must be big contributors"...LOL... There are many other lung related issues that get blamed or bulked in with or onto tobacco, or are contributory to tobacco, in the Lung Cancer campaign, because many of the smokers effected were also in the automotive repair, construction, welding, fabrication, auto body, chemical industries, all have serious heath issues, many lung related also, among many others that had also contributed to the problem, Tobacco was the PC target... Some people are just much more prone to lung cancer & other tobacco related heath issues than others, with some genetic thing or something that makes us what we all are, we are all different, in so many ways, not everyone is effected the same way... I'm not saying tobacco doesn't cause health problem, it obviously does, so do many, many other things that are excepted as OK by the PC crowd or Nanny State types, but there are far more important issues at hand to worry about, then smokers &/or tobacco issues... For now anyway, we are still a free state, so to speak, that right is being eroded more & more everyday, remember the saying, "freedom of choice", we once all use to have, that saying actually use to mean something, I guess that old quote from days of yore, is a long past memory of the good old days, before the NANNY STATE crap we all have now.... I had a Granddad that smoked, drank, ate bacon every morning, drank real Coke when it had Coca in it, drove cars when they had no seat belts or air bags or safety glass even, drove on Bay Area roads for 80+ years {that in itself is truly dangerous}, then worked at/for Shell Oil at refineries & Shell Oil construction sites for 50+ years as an Engineer, had unprotected sex {sorry I had to throw that one in, remember when that was safe}, he lived to the ripe old age of 99 died a few days before his 100th b/d, of natural causes, he had a great old sayings, "anything in moderation" & "you only live life once, live life at the fullest everyday", "if you enjoy it do it, with no regrets" EX-SMOKER :headbang: rant over, if you got em', smoke em', just be respectful of others....

You said everything I wanted to say. I do not judge people on what they do but how they treat me. It is funny that some people that did things and then stopped are so judgemental of people that still do it.:headbang:

 

[jessipup]

The next time someone gives you crap. Hold up your somkes and tell them that you not only pay for your habit, But you pay for thier medical bills in the extra taxes you pay that they do not! And tell them next time to just say thank you for paying my bills.

As far as so many far the Ex'es go that reminds me of a line from the movie Judge Roy Bean.
Paul newman was Judge bean and all on the women folk were bitchin about the saloon girls.
Well old judge bean looks right at em and reminds them
"That there ain't nothin worse than a reformed whore"

 

[b-star69]

I used to date a girl who would always smoke after we had sex.

i useta date a girl who smoked during sex if ya know what i mean.:huh:

 

[jessipup]

b star a little baby oil might help with that

 

[MAGNUM GT XS22L9R]

Quote: "Smoking should be banned completely in the US. Have any of you been to Europe and experienced how much smoking takes place there. You can't even go to a Pub without it reeking of smoke. Don't try and preach that it is a "CHOICE" to pollute the area with that crap. I hate it and will always hate it."

Well not always? Just from the point you stopped?


I Don't get it? When you were a smoker you were OK with it? But, now that
you quit, you think everybody has to quit?? OK, I get it smoking is bad for you.
That's like saying, I drive over the 10 miles per hour in the 65mph zone and if
I see someone behind me going faster I'm going to cut them off because
they're going too fast???

Non-Smoker by CHOICE!
Our Choices: Everyday the government takes them away?
If you want to smoke you should be able to choose! Maybe you'll have too
pay higher insurance? Just like riding a motorcycle with out the helmet, you
pay a higher premium on your insurance?!! But atleast you still have a choice!

 

[furyfrank]

:headbang:

Well not always? Just from the point you stopped?


I Don't get it? When you were a smoker you were OK with it? But, now that
you quit, you think everybody has to quit?? OK, I get it smoking is bad for you.
That's like saying, I drive over the 10 miles per hour in the 65mph zone and if
I see someone behind me going faster I'm going to cut them off because
they're going too fast???

Non-Smoker by CHOICE!
Our Choices: Everyday the government takes them away?
If you want to smoke you should be able to choose! Maybe you'll have too
pay higher insurance? Just like riding a motorcycle with out the helmet, you
pay a higher premium on your insurance?!! But at least you still have a choice!

I want to thank you for the reply about when he smoked it was OK, I wonder how people treated him when he smoked I hope a lot better than he treats them. The funny part was about the golf course he didn't want to play with them because they where better golfers.:headbang:

 

[cr8crshr]

OK....

Well not always? Just from the point you stopped?


I Don't get it? When you were a smoker you were OK with it? But, now that
you quit, you think everybody has to quit?? OK, I get it smoking is bad for you.
That's like saying, I drive over the 10 miles per hour in the 65mph zone and if
I see someone behind me going faster I'm going to cut them off because
they're going too fast???

Non-Smoker by CHOICE!
Our Choices: Everyday the government takes them away?
If you want to smoke you should be able to choose! Maybe you'll have too
pay higher insurance? Just like riding a motorcycle with out the helmet, you
pay a higher premium on your insurance?!! But at least you still have a choice!

That is true. But now that I have seen the errors in my ways, it has manifested itself into pure hatred of it. I started because I wanted to be "COOL" and excepted when I was in my teens. 16 years old is pretty young to start and back then we didn't have all the new gimmicks that cigarettes now have. Low Tar, recessed filter, etc. It was either "Straights" or "Filtered." After 40 years of it with some on and off attempts to quit, I finally had the "****" scared out of me just before I retired from the Military by the Flight Doc. He said that if I were to continue with it he could pretty much be certain that I would suffer a major Heart Attack within the next 6 months. After all the years in the Military and flying all over the world, my smoking habit was starting to take negative affects on my health. Add to that high BP and hypertension and the cocktail for a major heath incident was on the horizon. Why I even earlier this month lost to lung cancer a very close friend and fellow retiree from the Military. We ran together, smoked like no tomorrow, etc. 62 years young he was. And he continued to smoke up to his last days. I know it is a tough habit to quit. The additives in cigarettes and tobacco are some of the most carcinogenic toxins know to mankind. And with each drag it just delivered that stuff into my body.

When I was smoking I was not OK with it because it had lost its enjoyment for me and became an addictive habit. Shortness of breath, lost stamina, dental issues, all finally contributed to my cessation and complete dislike for it. I at the time I was smoking wished I had never started in the first place. But coming from a household where both parents smoked...yep Mom would smoke during pregnancy...and then peer pressure, will I was already predisposed to the habit. The worst of it was after a night of partying and with a hangover. That first cigarette was terrible but I had to force it to get my fix.

It is often said that us "Reformed or Former Smokers" are the worst when it comes to it. I guess maybe it is an atonement to choosing something inherently bad and detrimental to ones health. Even friends that are either non-smokers or former smokers have said that I can get over the top with my feelings on this subject. I can't turn back the clock and undo what I began back at 16. Boy I wish I could because I would have never begun the habit in the first place. But in Life there are always risks that we take. Some are more serious in outcome than others. It is a choice...albeit a rather bad choice IMHO...and that is our God given right. Now that I am a little older and a lot more wiser, I can not see any merit or value to it. And besides I like to breath now, sleep a lot better, and taste the wonderful aromas that food and the rest of my senses now enjoy and experience.

This is the last comment I will post on this subject as I never intended to force my choices on others. This is one subject area that I am completely against and hopefully someone else here will see the habit for what it is and do the right thing. Quit and give it up....Good Luck....cr8crshr/Tuck

 

[cr8crshr]

Oh...And FuryFrank...Any time any where bring your sticks and checkbook because you will need them after I am done showing you your way around a Golf Course....

 

[MAGNUM GT XS22L9R]

Well, I'm not a golfer so I'll bring my shotgun,.... PULLLLLL! lol!
Golf skeet


I agree on the taste thing! Smoking kills your tastebuds!
FYI: Both my Mom & Dad Smoked also.

 

[furyfrank]

Well, I'm not a golfer so I'll bring my shotgun,.... PULLLLLL! lol!

I agree on the taste thing! Smoking kills your tastebuds!


FYI: Both my Mom & Dad Smoked also.

That is why most people when they stop smoking gain weight , why do you think America has a weight problem all the people who stopped smoking started eating .About golfing I did it twice in my life, the only game where nobody throws or hits the ball back to you, dumbest game I ever played.:headbang: