PST vs Moog

[texas69bee]

I've done a little research on suspension parts and preferred brands. What I've noticed is PST and Moog. When comparing the 2 head to head, which is better?

 

[Moparsmitty]

There are several other threads on this and other forums about this subject. It really comes down to personal preference and maybe cost. I generally use Moog stock type steering and suspension parts. My buddy Ray runs the best brake and suspension shop around here and he uses Moog (NAPA) parts almost exclusively. He will use PST or other vendors if the customer insists, but he advises them against it for a couple of reasons. He says that a few people have brought their cars back after installing PST or other polyurethane parts because of noise or stiffness in the suspension. I've been told that PST is better now than years ago. So it really depends on what you want the car to do. If you want the nice quiet, smooth stock like ride, I'd go with Moog. If you want stiffer more responsive suspension, go PST. Hope this helps.

 

[super-bee_ski]

Yeah, X2 with Moparsmitty,
I used to go ALL PST
Now I go MOOG

My recent build, a 67 LeMans convertible 4-speed AC car is all MOOG now.

Why MOOG?
I personally believe they are still made in America (I hope)
Usually MOOG is a little more pricey.

Also, if you look up Kanter products, they too are good, usually are NOT Poly.

 

[texas69bee]

Moog it is. I found this kit at carpartsdiscount.com (Moog) for $418. vs PST for $379

 

[MarPar]

you could try Bill Rolik also...I have never dealt with him personally, but Ive read a lot of good things about him.

http://www.billrolikenterprises.com/products.asp?cat=11

 

[super-bee_ski]

you could try Bill Rolik also...I have never dealt with him personally, but Ive read a lot of good things about him.

http://www.billrolikenterprises.com/products.asp?cat=11

Yup,
I have forgotten about Bill!
I have ordered from hi a couple of times.

Good guy
Fast shipping
Very knowledgeable

 

[Jeremiah]

I used to use Moog but the quality has suffered since the boxes started to indicate they are being made overseas. I have three or four of my personal cars running PST stuff and after lots of miles and periodic maintenance checks the only problem I have ever had was a few tie rod boots splitting. They sent me four or six replacements right away. I'd say do whatever you are comfortable with and car afford. Personally I love poly lower control arms with greasable pins but I also think drag radials roller cams are streetable. YMMV

 

[Car Nut]

If you go with Moog, O'reilly's will price match and they have a lifetime warranty.

 

[texas69bee]

Thanks Car Nut, Oreillys isn't far from my house.

 

[GITEX]

Moog has been around for as long as I recall, And have used them. IMOP everything else is a knock off.

 

[Cmmopar]

I would never use Chinese made junk in my cars, I value my life and property too much. Aside from the questionable metallurgy and craftsmanship why support the communist enemy? We fought them in Korea and in Vietnam and will be fighting them in the near future most likely.

 

[Dennis H]

Moog has or had a good rep. The PST Tubular UCA's installed resulted in a huge improvement on the R/T.

 

[snakeoil24]

We know that Moog makes all their parts. Who makes the parts for PST? is their product all Chinese? Also if you want really good US made product I would only use Firm Feel. The best Ive seen in many years.

 

[Jeremiah]

http://www.aftermarketsuspensionparts.com/blog/where-are-moog-parts-made/


Maybe this will be a bit of enlightenment for a few of you. Any of the professional mechanics know what I'm talking about here. I'm not saying Moog is bad, I'm simply pointing out that "Made In USA" may not be the case anymore.

 

[Cmmopar]

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http://www.aftermarketsuspensionparts.com/blog/where-are-moog-parts-made/


Maybe this will be a bit of enlightenment for a few of you. Any of the professional mechanics know what I'm talking about here. I'm not saying Moog is bad, I'm simply pointing out that "Made In USA" may not be the case anymore.

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I have seen seen this firsthand, the situation is the same with Timken. I have contacted both companies and let them know that I will not buy any of their products made in China. I and most people I know would be willing to pay more for USA made parts of good quality rather than pay less for name brand "premium" grade Chinese garbage or even far less than the "economy" grade Chinese crap, even if it has an old American name brand slapped on it. I just replaced a set of Chinese made NAPA premium grade Chinese front hub assemblies that failed at 7,000 and 9,000 miles respectively. They were installed and torqued correctly. They were purchased in-store for $115 each. Made in USA Timken assembles were ordered online for $95 + shipping from rock auto. The guys behind the counter said they commonly encounter bearing failures in that product line.

It is important to contact these companies and let them know how you feel about their brand, quality and parts sources.

 

[Moparsmitty]

I'm not so sure that PST or Firm Feel parts are all made in the U.S. You would think that if everything they sold was American made that they would make that claim on their websites. I would if it was my business, but maybe someone can enlighten me.
Believe me, I am all for buying American made parts and I do whenever I can, but it's getting tougher all the time. Brake rotors are a good example. I don't think that there is any manufacturer in the U.S. that forges rotor slugs. A few rotors are machined in the U.S. but the slugs are Chinese. The major replacement parts manufacturers are doing whatever the can to obscure the origin of their parts. It's a sad situation.