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Cutting her up!

Answer Book

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I am going to be cutting up my 68 satellite. Is there a part by part diagram showing where every part is spot welded together at? Location of each part and what each one is called? I do not want to cut through any parts and do not know even where to begin. If I could see a step by step of how the car was originally put together, that would help me do just the exact opposite.
 
There is no diagram. You will find that its a major undertaking when trying to keep the panels straight. There is no magic plan you just have to pick a point and start there. Do yourself a favor and go buy a few spot weld cutting bits from harbor freight. Then start in one area and drill them all out. Probably around 2 inches apart you will find.

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-double-sided-rotary-spot-weld-cutter-63657.html
 
There is no diagram. You will find that its a major undertaking when trying to keep the panels straight. There is no magic plan you just have to pick a point and start there. Do yourself a favor and go buy a few spot weld cutting bits from harbor freight. Then start in one area and drill them all out. Probably around 2 inches apart you will find.

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-double-sided-rotary-spot-weld-cutter-63657.html
already have the bits..... and i know the actual spot welds are kinda random.... im not asking where EACH spot weld is..... im asking what parts are spot welded together and where each partis located..... something like this but for b body 1968....showing every body part

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Rad support, inner fenders, inner fender attachments, firewall, cowl, inner rockers, outer rockers, inner wheel house, outer wheel house, quarter panel, tail panel, tail panel supports, bumper panel, dutchman panel, package tray, frame rails, torsion bar crossmember, floor pans.......everything? That isn't all of it. Are you building it or parting it out?
 
Rad support, inner fenders, inner fender attachments, firewall, cowl, inner rockers, outer rockers, inner wheel house, outer wheel house, quarter panel, tail panel, tail panel supports, bumper panel, dutchman panel, package tray, frame rails, torsion bar crossmember, floor pans.......everything? That isn't all of it. Are you building it or parting it out?
parting it out
Rad support, inner fenders, inner fender attachments, firewall, cowl, inner rockers, outer rockers, inner wheel house, outer wheel house, quarter panel, tail panel, tail panel supports, bumper panel, dutchman panel, package tray, frame rails, torsion bar crossmember, floor pans.......everything? That isn't all of it. Are you building it or parting it out?
parting out... but telling me what parts there are does not help me.... i have NO clue where they go together at and when u say a part name - same answer - no clue... i do not know part names or what is connected to what or where
that is WHY is asked for some type of picture - so i can SEE
 
I wasn't telling you the names to tell you how to do it. I was implying the task you are undertaking! I would start at the rad support and work my way back. It's pretty straight forward really, but it is a lot of work. I've chopped up a few A-bodies. By the time I'm done I call them chicken bones!
 
Well the picture you posted is about as close as you will get. Or you can look at AMD and their patches/panels and see what they are supposed to look like. But before you go and cut it up show a picture. Someone may want to buy the car as is. No sense on cutting up a car that could be restored. The picture I say was a post car. Not sure which one you are cutting up. But if it can be saved, save it.
 
beepbeep - I appreciate ya - I really do, and I hope you know that by now.....that has not changed
but first you say- there is not one nowhere whatsoever that exists.......
then after I post one that is similar, but not the one I am looking for- you say that is as close as I will get(I find that very hard to believe) as it is only a partial of more and is missing the list that depicts each part with number it is pointing and referring to. also many years ago my grandpa showed me one that was in a book of a different car, so I know they exist
then you say DO NOT CUT UP - show pictures offer for sale - SAVE IT....
I appreciate your desire to save these old cars I really do, as I agree we should try and save as many as we can.
BUT (by following your line of responses).... it "APPEARS" if you knew of one you(even thou you are very helpful) would not share....
like I said - appears... you have been helpful before and I am sure you help lots of folks and always will.. thanks it is appreciated
But when someone does not like to see cars cut up, and could help save them, why would that person help another cut one up, they wouldn't. also if someone was cutting up cars to sell parts - I might be considered competition in some way, so that individual would not be willing to help either and I can not blame them.
what I am getting at is thanks for helping me see that there are at least 2 groups of folks that might not be willing to help.... competition and car savers ... I had not thought of that, so I don't expect much help with this ......I AM NOT SAYING YOU ARE IN EITHER OF THESE GROUPS OR WOULD ACT LIKE THAT..... Just that your timeline of responses resembles, maybe.... lol.....thanks man you always are helpful in one way or another.. good to get different perspectives on things I never thought about before

....I just dont wanna ruin where the body,frame,and floors all meet and where the top meets the dash area and door area....other places also...
 
If you see a spot weld, drill it out. Drill out all the spotwelds you see. If you have drilled out all the spot welds and the part is not free, you did not drill out all the spot welds. Drill out more spotwelds.
 
Wow.. Well to start off If its the 4 door car you are cutting up that's one thing. But if you are cutting up a 2 door that's another. I never said DO NOT CUT IT UP. What I said was simply post a picture of the car up and maybe some one would buy it and save you the hassle of cutting it up. But in the end its up to you what you want to do. I wish you luck either way. Some cars are rusted beyond help some are not and there is always someone interested in a long term project. What I did say was there is no one way to take a car apart just find a spot and start.

Maybe I can put this another way. Out here in the east coast when we do find a car or project there is usually so much damn rust in it we would have been better off buying a mid west shell to start with. Case in point the Belvedere I just purchased well, I can run off a list of parts and sheet metal that it will need. I probably would have been better off starting with a rust free shell even if it didn't have a single bolt on part. I wasn't trying to mislead you or talk you out of doing anything. I have never seen a book that shows every panel and where and how its placed. Not saying it doesn't exist But I guess its possible. DOWNLOAD the FSM for that particular model and go through it and maybe there is a page or section devoted to body panels.
 
If you see a spot weld, drill it out. If you have drilled out all the spot welds and the part is not free, you did not drill out all the spot welds.
You're welcome!
Thanks but not drilling all welds... Using a different tool and technique to save both parts completely(mostly) some do need drilled but not most..... Also if I was to just start drilling... At some point part will b loose and fall... I want to brace each part so it doesn't move... Pics would help this process ... Thanks for helping
 
Wow.. Well to start off If its the 4 door car you are cutting up that's one thing. But if you are cutting up a 2 door that's another. I never said DO NOT CUT IT UP. What I said was simply post a picture of the car up and maybe some one would buy it and save you the hassle of cutting it up. But in the end its up to you what you want to do. I wish you luck either way. Some cars are rusted beyond help some are not and there is always someone interested in a long term project. What I did say was there is no one way to take a car apart just find a spot and start.

Maybe I can put this another way. Out here in the east coast when we do find a car or project there is usually so much damn rust in it we would have been better off buying a mid west shell to start with. Case in point the Belvedere I just purchased well, I can run off a list of parts and sheet metal that it will need. I probably would have been better off starting with a rust free shell even if it didn't have a single bolt on part. I wasn't trying to mislead you or talk you out of doing anything. I have never seen a book that shows every panel and where and how its placed. Not saying it doesn't exist But I guess its possible. DOWNLOAD the FSM for that particular model and go through it and maybe there is a page or section devoted to body panels.
Thanks beeper... I always appreciate your help and wisdom... I was not trying to be negative towards you... I am sorry if it came across that way... You helped me see how certain groups of people could react to my post... Like I said before... You are one of a few so far I respect...thanks
 
I am going to be cutting up my 68 satellite. Is there a part by part diagram showing where every part is spot welded together at? Location of each part and what each one is called? I do not want to cut through any parts and do not know even where to begin. If I could see a step by step of how the car was originally put together, that would help me do just the exact opposite.
Hang in there brother. These guys may not be giving you the answer (diagram) you are looking for, but they are being honest and truly trying to help.
1. If it is reasonably in one piece, then someone might want to buy the whole car & save you HUNDREDS of hours in labor.
2. The car is worth more in pieces IF you have the storage space, patient to sell the pieces (years maybe), know where/how to sell the parts, etc.
3. I agree with Spoolinhard, just pick a spot & start drilling out spot welds. I appreciate that you want to brace all the stuff, but I don't think you will need to do that. I mean, I don't think you will be surprised when a piece is about to come loose....you'll know.
4. gdrill was letting you know all the pieces that are spot welded together...there are a lot. I think that might help to know what pieces you are trying to separate. ALSO, keep in mind that some people you sell parts too "might" want some original tack welds still in place.....like inner fenders/front frame rails/etc. if they need to fix more than one piece on their cars.

Lastly, I might suggest you take a lot of pictures & label everything as you take it out very, very well. Even if you only part out one car ever, those roof/headliner bows start to look alike....is this the 2nd one back or 4th one back? (for example).

Hope This Helps!
 
If you want examples of say a floor pan install I have some pictures of the braces and what needs to be cut out. They are my personal pictures Also I removed an entire roof from a 67 Coronet and put it on my 67 Belvedere. I cut the spot welds out that I needed to cut out and the roof came off like it would have from the factory. However I had to do some creative welding on the front pillar since I didn't want to try and reskin the old structure. There are seams that you can find and usually spot welds that are in each of those seams. If you just use an air hammer I bet you mess some sheet metal up. The proper way is to drill out the spot welds. But only through one panel. Don't drive it home through both panels.

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Ok...I don't like to get to personal as I am a very private person. I didn't wanna share "what I'm doin" as it my business no one else's.. Hope no one takes offense as I'm not talking to one person just explaining -me......
But here it is... I am completely disassembling a car.... The reason for this is to know how everything goes together when Me and my grandson in a few years put it back together totally and completely from scratch like they did from the factory and be completely like new. I am also marking and taking pics and some videos along the way and will do the same when he starts high school and we start building one from scratch... Gonna also be his graduation gift......thanks all for helping
 
I have disassembled many mopars
Down to the last bone
It takes a lot more then drilling welds apart and hoping it falls all apart in your lap
You also need dexterity,finesse and and a lot of patience...
Good luck if you are a novice
 
Hey Answer book, not meaning any offence to you or your idea, but unless the shell is rusty, I really dont understand your logic. Building a car up from a shell is in itself, a huge job. Why on earth would you take a shell apart, only to put it back together. Not only is that a crazy amount of work, but also broadens the margin for error. If you mess anything up, you will not be able to build the rest properly. I can assure you, you and your grandson will have many hours bonding over the project as it is. Which ever way you decide to go, best of luck with it.
 
One thing is when I drill a car apart
A lot of stuff is bad giving you a path to dig into.to save the good stuff
If you went in trying to save every last piece would be very very time consuming
And not very easy to do.
That is why I guess he has never done something like this before
 
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