Question about the C-130H

[kiwigtx]

Wings Over Wairarapa Air Festival 2021 - Masterton - Eventfinda

We have an Air Show over the weekend here and one highlight is an Australian (RAAF) Air Force C-130 arrival, landing and departure.

Due to the strict Covid Quarantine regulations here, the crew must stay on board upon landing, then be on show for the public to look at up close, and then (as reported by our local News Reader) reverse itself up the runway to depart home to Australia.

A total round trip of over 3,000 miles and on the aircraft for probably 10 hours all up.

The thing that I am curious about is this - can that aircraft actually reverse itself up the runway? The strip where the show is being held is a small rural strip...nothing fancy. Mostly only sees private craft, and smaller prop powered planes from Air NZ.

Sounded weird enough for me to ask. Anyone know - @69a100 ?

The programme calls the C-130H a NZ craft....but that programme might have been printed weeks ago.

 

[dadsbee]

A C130-H is a 4 prop Hercules.. .and yes it can back up the length of the runway..

Wonder if anyone checked pavement "qualifications"... (My Brother wouldn't let any of his fleet land at our local airport for that very reason)

 

[khryslerkid]

We don't need no stinking pavement!

 

[peabodyracin]

C-130 is an amazing airplane. For a short runway I wonder if they'll use JATO, although the H models are plenty powerful on their own. Empty it probably wouldn't be a problem now that I think about it.

I worked on H models. The only think I didn't like was changing the nose gear wheels.

I remember one time a C-123 stopped in for us to look at a problem they were having. That's a shrunk down, two engine version that looks quite similar to a C-130 even though made by a different mfr.

I went out to guide them to a spot where they could shut down, so we could hook up and back him into his spot. He waved me off and literally parallel parked the darn thing using reverse thrust on the props. That was impressive!

 

[Slap Stick]

JATO is no longer used as the bottles arent being made any more.

 

[ACME A12]

One of my best friends was a USAF C-141 Loadmaster back in the early eighties. You know how military rivalries go amongst any different platform regardless of branch or mission... He and his cronies used to call C130s "Mountain Magnets". Always made me chuckle.

 

[cr8crshr]

As a former crew member and crewing the C-130...A Models for me..they indeed can back up the length of the runway. My crew position was Loadmaster and I was responsible for the entire cargo area including all doors, loading ramp and pressure door in the rear where on and off loading and aerial delivery/air drop was through. My responsibility when during the backing maneuver was to open the pressure door and lower the ramp 3/4's of the way down. I would then position myself on my belly and on headset and acted as the eyes and ears in the back for the Pilot while he worked the throttles and the nose wheel steering. I would instruct to turn a little left or right and maintain clearance from any objects, other planes, etc. Actually a very easy procedure. It was a blast and I would do it all over again if I could. All C-130's have this ability and now so does the C-17 of which RAAF Kiwi has also along with their C-130's. As for JATO??? That has used mostly during the Viet Nam war and other Special Operations but was discontinued shortly after the VN War. If you can, go see it and be amazed at how it is accomplished...cr8crshr/Bill

https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/8-awesome-c-130-manuevers/3904436240001

 

[cr8crshr]

One of my best friends was a USAF C-141 Loadmaster back in the early eighties. You know how military rivalries go amongst any different platform regardless of branch or mission... He and his cronies used to call C130s "Mountain Magnets". Always made me chuckle.

Well as a former C-141 Loadmaster myself, I have to take a small exception to what your are claiming he said here. The C-130's were never know as...at least during my time crewing on them...as "Mountain Magnets" but rather it was the C-141 that received that moniker. They had the propensity to crash into mountains during low level Tactical maneuvers. Mchord AFB WA was the base that had the most but there were a few other bases that lost some of theirs. The C-141 was also know as Gecko Air or Flying Tubes of Death but during my time I never had that experience fortunately. Just sharing what my experience was...cr8crshr/Bill

 

[peabodyracin]

JATO is no longer used as the bottles arent being made any more.

I'm dating myself, and did not know that. The setup was quite common when I was in service, as they were landing in Alaska a fair amount and had trouble with the short runways.

 

[69a100]

Aircraft Moonwalk what cr8 said with a C-17!!! You can see the Load on headset on the ramp towards the end of the clip.
More C-17 backing up video - YouTube

 

[ACME A12]

Well as a former C-141 Loadmaster myself, I have to take a small exception to what your are claiming he said here. The C-130's were never know as...at least during my time crewing on them...as "Mountain Magnets" but rather it was the C-141 that received that moniker.

Just relating what he said to me ~40 years ago. I have no dog in that fight.

 

[kiwigtx]

Aircraft Moonwalk what cr8 said with a C-17!!! You can see the Load on headset on the ramp towards the end of the clip.
More C-17 backing up video - YouTube

Awesome ...thank you for sharing that video clip.

 

[Skytrooper]

The Blue Angels C-130, Fat Albert still uses JATO.

 

[HALIFAXHOPS]

I have spent many hours working on HC-130 , HN, C, J's MC ect. Great planes can do it all usually, so mant varients. I was Rescue so all of ours were for refuling H-60's.

 

[Slap Stick]

The Blue Angels C-130, Fat Albert still uses JATO.

Incorrect. The last time they used JATO was 2009.

 

[HALIFAXHOPS]

I am not shure if the snow birds that go to antartica still use them or not? Good question.

 

[joe smith]

The newer C-130's have 6 bladed props.. Not sure if its an "update" on older ones too...
Driving through the Tacoma WA. area and having C5's doing touch and go's is an amazing sight too. You can almost reach up and touch them it seems as you drive up I-5.... HUGE thing that is "flying"... Seems impossible

 

[joe smith]

Wings Over Wairarapa Air Festival 2021 - Masterton - Eventfinda

Due to the strict Covid Quarantine regulations here, the crew must stay on board upon landing, @69a100

That woman in charge of your country insist upon that?? It would be a "pass" in my flying day.....

 

[HALIFAXHOPS]

The newer C-130's have 6 bladed props.. Not sure if its an "update" on older ones too...
Driving through the Tacoma WA. area and having C5's doing touch and go's is an amazing sight too. You can almost reach up and touch them it seems as you drive up I-5.... HUGE thing that is "flying"... Seems impossible

Those are the J models. Not a bad plane same fuselage basically and more HP on them. I did not like them they could actually shut themselves down at times. Great idea with dual warning systems but if you had both fail at the same time say for a fire in the engine and there was none it starts shutting that engine down, not good in the air or especially takeoff at rotation, and the 1553 buss was run on windows when I worked on them. I liked old school personally.

 

[Skytrooper]

Incorrect. The last time they used JATO was 2009.

You are quite correct sir ! I did not know that they stopped in 2009 when their stockpile of Jato's was depleted. I had the opportunity to fly in Fat Albert during an airshow, complete with jato takeoff. What a ride ! We always hosted the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds in our hangar whenever they were in town for an airshow.