66 Rear Qtr Window Removal?

[AR67GTX]

It's been nearly 20 years since I had the rear quarter windows out of my 67 GTX and I started in on my 66 Satellite today as I need to replace the outer window sweeps and removal of the glass seems the best way to do so without mayhem. However, the roller/slide mechanism doesn't look familiar to me at all from memory of my 67 and comparing it to my 66 and 67 shop manuals isn't helping either as it doesn't seem to match either. Seems like my 67 had a big roller that rode inside a C-channel similar to what the shop manual shows. Here are pictures of the roller/slides on the glass.

And here is the drawing in the 66 manual (67 is the same).

Can someone give me some ideas of the steps for temporary removal of the glass with the types of glides that I have. Maybe my memory is foggy or I'm just disoriented. I hate to just start unbolting everything and trying to pry it all out of there.

A second question - not sure if my car was never equipped with down stops or they are just removed/missing on both sides. I sort of question if any were ever installed as I don't see any signs or bolt or washer marks on the window carrier around the slots.

Anyone else find their car lacks these or should they definitely be there?

Any help would be appreciated.

Dan

 

[R413]

1966 is totally different that 1967 and a pain to work on. I’ve not done it on a 1966 but heard the stories. Good luck.

I’d recommend leaving the glass in there. Roll it down and there is just the top corner to work around. Not like a door glass that is in the way front to back.

 

[AR67GTX]

I figured out part of this - confusing the roller assembly on the track guides with the roller that slides in the slot of the glass frame - failing memory and confusion. Interestingly the rear roller is missing entirely on my driver side so I'll have to find someone with the roller assembly off a part car.

Still would appreciate any ideas of best way to disconnect the spring clip holding the roller in the glass frame slot to the assembly since it faces out and my arms don't have gimble joints. So any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Maybe it's easiest to unbolt the winder assembly and shift it around until the rollers slip out of the open end of the slot???

I think the glass needs has to come out - there just isn't any room to get a small screwdriver up in there to flip the outer window sweep clips out of their slots - I tried. When lowered the whole top edge of the window lies just below the sweep or at the front actually rest against it.

 

[2quick]

I built and painted my entire rotisserie done 66 Satellite (including installing correct window felts) without removing the window just for that reason. It's a royal pain in the *** and realignment with the front glass is nearly impossible.

 

[Jerry Hall]

Window alignment and adjustments have stalled several projects for me. They are not easy to work on and a pain in the butt to adjust.

 

[AR67GTX]

I don’t recall much trouble with my 67 - but I was younger. Think on the driver side I will try removing the bottom track bolt and with the window down, rotate the track and roller back until the roller hits the open end of the slot and disengages. Sine the back roller is missing altogether this should work at least on that side. Once I have it out I should be able to figure something out on the other side. I’ll circle the bolt positions with a sharpie and count threads on in/out bolt adjusters.

The last guy to work on this put fuzzies on the outside. I bought a set of flocked rubbers swipes to replace them with.

Thanks

 

[VFilms]

I recently did just this on my ‘66 Belvedere. I can sorta and maybe and probably walk you through it but not sure how in this forum. How would you like to communicate?

 

[VFilms]

1966 is totally different that 1967 and a pain to work on. I’ve not done it on a 1966 but heard the stories. Good luck.

I’d recommend leaving the glass in there. Roll it down and there is just the top corner to work around. Not like a door glass that is in the way front to back.

You are correct about leaving in the glass. I had to remove the rollers and tracks and move the glass downward. Took hours and took lots of pics.

 

[MoparBill]

There is a lower stop. If you remove it, the glass should go down enough to change the outer sweep.

 

[AR67GTX]

Mine doesn’t have the lower stops as mentioned and shown in the first post but glass will not go below the weatherstrip at the front. No way to get to the clips holding the strips in with a small screwdriver to release them with the glass up or down. And when the weatherstrip fastener tang is pried out to release it, the weatherstrip has to move up and rotate in to complete unhooking it. Can’t do that with the glass there.

 

[AR67GTX]

I recently did just this on my ‘66 Belvedere. I can sorta and maybe and probably walk you through it but not sure how in this forum. How would you like to communicate?

I’m out of town for a few days. When I get back, if my idea of unbolting the front guide at the bottom doesn’t work I’ll PM you.
Thanks

 

[Dave6T4]

I think '66 rear glass was bolted to the riser, while '67 glass was bonded. Can you wind the riser down to a position to access bolts? I put a tinted glass set from a '66 Satellite in my '67 R/T years ago and noticed the difference in risers.

 

[AR67GTX]

I think '66 rear glass was bolted to the riser, while '67 glass was bonded. Can you wind the riser down to a position to access bolts? I put a tinted glass set from a '66 Satellite in my '67 R/T years ago and noticed the difference in risers.

That’s a good comment & question. When I get back to town I’ll look at that connection a little closer. I was thinking it was set in bedding tape but didn’t look to see.

 

[AR67GTX]

Well - it was a struggle but I finally got it out. Probably not necessary in the long run but that's what it is. There are two pivot points on the 66 that have to have the spring clips removed (on the outside of the windows so a real chore to release blindly with a little screwdriver) and then three sliding roller assemblies that have to be maneuvered to the oversize holes in the end to remove them.

Once I finally figured out the exact type of roller assembly I needed, I found a had a couple new ones left over from my GTX refresh about 18 years ago.

t 18 years ago.

Also, not surprising but a lot of you guys are smarter than me. I found if I kept shoving the rear window down front and rear that I could eventually get it down below the window sill sweeps. Prying on it I discovered the rear sweeps have a different clip that pry out easier than the hard-to-release clips that hold the front sweeps. The lower one is the rear and the middle one is the front.

So it is possible to change the sweeps out without having to get into the rear quarter cavity and mess with the windows. Again, my car doesn't have down stops and doesn't appear to ever have had them.

 

[VFilms]

Congrats, yes you figured it out. But you failed to mention the rear almost vertical channel that guides the back of the window. When the plastic roller breaks off it leaves a round ball/knob to move up and down in that track. I could not figure out how that worked until I looked at my Satellite and saw the roller. Then I realized what was missing. Now I just have to find a couple.
But other than that I congratulate you on a job well done. Not easy by any means.

 

[AR67GTX]

Forgot to post that I did get the glass back in (without damage) and functioning smoothly. But it was a good struggle. And yes, that rear channel roller was a real pain - once I got it in I thought I would be safe in moving the window down before I put the clip on and as I did the dang thing just fell off. At least from that I did learn that it’s easiest to install that particular roller with the window down. How the assembly line workers managed to install the rear windows in any sort of speedy process, I will never understand.