difference in color FE5 and E5?

[davek]

FE5 is medium red and E5 is bright red. Looking at pics and they look the same. What am I not seeing? If you have either color please post a pic. Thanks Dave

 

[R413]

Best bet is the paint store and look at the formula.
Repaints, lighting, paint mix, camera and monitor differences will make it futile.
And the name is meaningless, many colors have a different name for Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler and it's the same code and formula.

The first letter is very important. Don't walk in and request B5 blue.
Do you want EB5 or GB5? Different formula makes different colors.
Same with Y3. DY3 is a plain cream color, GY3 is curious yellow, a bright hi impact color.

 

[6PKRTSE]

My 70 Charger and my 70 Challenger are both FE5. My buddy's 70 Road Runner is originally EV2 orange, now repainted a custom mix of some sort of red. My buddy's 67 GTX is a custom mix to match the factory 1967 red. All 3 are a different shade of red with my Charger more of a deeper cherry red, the Road Runner more of an orangish tint, and the GTX closer to the color of my Charger. However, they all look the same color in the photos.

 

[davek]

Best bet is the paint store and look at the formula.
Repaints, lighting, paint mix, camera and monitor differences will make it futile.
And the name is meaningless, many colors have a different name for Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler and it's the same code and formula.

The first letter is very important. Don't walk in and request B5 blue.
Do you want EB5 or GB5? Different formula makes different colors.
Same with Y3. DY3 is a plain cream color, GY3 is curious yellow, a bright hi impact color.

So if I go to the paint store can they show me on a card,like house paint colors?

 

[davek]

My 70 Charger and my 70 Challenger are both FE5. My buddy's 70 Road Runner is originally EV2 orange, now repainted a custom mix of some sort of red. My buddy's 67 GTX is a custom mix to match the factory 1967 red. All 3 are a different shade of red with my Charger more of a deeper cherry red, the Road Runner more of an orangish tint, and the GTX closer to the color of my Charger. However, they all look the same color in the photos.

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Thank you,Im looking for more of red and wasnt sure.

 

[R413]

So if I go to the paint store can they show me on a card,like house paint colors?

They have the factory paint chip sheets with colors.

They will have a book with hundreds of each color, not factory colors.

They also have a chip book with holes in the chips, you take the sheet and lay it on the paint, when he hole in the chip disappears you have the right color. It works pretty good.

 

[Charles Cook]

 

[DeltaV]

FE5 is medium red and E5 is bright red. Looking at pics and they look the same. What am I not seeing? If you have either color please post a pic. Thanks Dave

Grey primer, red primer, or some other color primer underneath the color coat?

 

[Runner 68]

Keep in mind the colors will always vary a bit.
For example, my son's newly painted / mixed B5 blue Duster does not match an original pristine B5 blue 1970 car nor does it match the B5 blue that the late model Mopars have. Side by side comparisons at shows is how I know.
Paint is voodoo. Go with what comes out of the gun and be happy with it.

 

[R413]

New late model B5 is not the same B5 as 55 years ago, different color.

Now realize the paint mix from the store, the mixing of paint, reducer and hardener at the shop, and the spray gun and pressures will change the color.

 

[WileE]

New late model B5 is not the same B5 as 55 years ago, different color.

Now realize the paint mix from the store, the mixing of paint, reducer and hardener at the shop, and the spray gun and pressures will change the color.

And just as importantly, the shade of primer.

 

[davek]

Thanks to all

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

So if I go to the paint store can they show me on a card,like house paint colors?

They should have paint chip books

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Keep in mind the colors will always vary a bit.
For example, my son's newly painted / mixed B5 blue Duster does not match an original pristine B5 blue 1970 car nor does it match the B5 blue that the late model Mopars have. Side by side comparisons at shows is how I know.
Paint is voodoo. Go with what comes out of the gun and be happy with it.

Very true but temp and humidity are factors also in the painting process

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

New late model B5 is not the same B5 as 55 years ago, different color.

Now realize the paint mix from the store, the mixing of paint, reducer and hardener at the shop, and the spray gun and pressures will change the color.

I was told the first letter in the paint is the year

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

And just as importantly, the shade of primer.

Yes was told when I first started at a shop light colors light primer, dark colors dark primer

 

[33 IMP]

I was told the first letter in the paint is the year

Not 100% correct, but close. First letter indicates the first year that formulation was used.
Butterscotch is a good example When it came out in late 69, it was coded 96 (and a couple others). It disappeared for 70, when it came back in 71, it was coded EL5, meaning 69 first year (E).

 

[bandit67]

One must understand many of the pigments used 50 plus years ago are no longer available and substitutes must be used. And, as posted, that's just one of many reasons todays paint very seldom matches old OEM paint.

Will, on Graveyard Cars, sometimes goes to great efforts in mixing formulas in attempting to get a close color match.

 

[MWbirdLOVER70]

Not 100% correct, but close. First letter indicates the first year that formulation was used.
Butterscotch is a good example When it came out in late 69, it was coded 96 (and a couple others). It disappeared for 70, when it came back in 71, it was coded EL5, meaning 69 first year (E).

I agree with that statement

 

[68BabyBlue]

Keep in mind the colors will always vary a bit.
For example, my son's newly painted / mixed B5 blue Duster does not match an original pristine B5 blue 1970 car nor does it match the B5 blue that the late model Mopars have. Side by side comparisons at shows is how I know.
Paint is voodoo. Go with what comes out of the gun and be happy with it.

When Baby Blue was re-painted in factory QQ1 blue back in 1985, the shop did an amazing job of matching the original. I had a friend with a well preserved original paint car for comparison. When the current owner had the car repainted nearly 40 years later, it wasn't even close. Cost was a consideration in trying to get a close match.