413 identification

[Dave6T4]

The data plate is a Canadian car. You're still good. Paging @Dave6T4

The fender tag is definitely Canadian, but is in bad shape. This Polara should have the 4 round gauge Plymouth instrument cluster in it. My '64 Polara has an Edelbrock Performer on it with a 750 cfm. Edelbrock carb on the 440. I ground the Edelbrock lettering off the intake manifold, and painted it engine colour.

 

[33 IMP]

There's nothing wrong with a 413 except if it's time for a rebuild, pistons are hard to find, and expensive.
If there's nothing wrong with the way it runs now, keep it. No need for a 440 for your intended use.
You could put a performer or rpm on it. Should make a few more hp.

 

[413Polara]

The fender tag is definitely Canadian, but is in bad shape. This Polara should have the 4 round gauge Plymouth instrument cluster in it. My '64 Polara has an Edelbrock Performer on it with a 750 cfm. Edelbrock carb on the 440. I ground the Edelbrock lettering off the intake manifold, and painted it engine colour.

Is there any useable information on the tag? It does have the 4 gauge cluster in it, I’m kind of partial to it over the American cluster.

 

[33 IMP]

Did they make a dual 4bbl intake for non MW?

Yes. Chrysler 300s. As well as various aftermarket. Eddie, Offy, and Weiand all did.

 

[Dave6T4]

Did they make a dual 4bbl intake for non MW?

Edelbrock makes one. I think they have a whole set-up for sale, using 2, 500 cfm. Edelbrock carbs, and linkage. I once had a 1962 Chrysler 300H 2 X 4 intake and carbs on a 426 Street Wedge. They looked great, but in my experience, a single 750 cfm. carb on a 4- barrel intake felt crisper.

 

[Dave6T4]

Your car has the optional (in Canada) bright lower sill trim usually seen on U.S. 1964 Fury and Sport Fury. This trim is shown in Canadian Parts Manual as option on Canadian Polaras. Your interior trim would be the equivalent of 1964 U.S. Fury, instead of the more ornate U.S. Polara trim. Your interior window garnish moldings are painted, instead of being chromed, like U.S. pieces. A small detail, but even the windshield washer squirters are in a different position than U.S. cars.

 

[413Polara]

Your car has the optional (in Canada) bright lower sill trim usually seen on U.S. 1964 Fury and Sport Fury. This trim is shown in Canadian Parts Manual as option on Canadian Polaras. Your interior trim would be the equivalent of 1964 U.S. Fury, instead of the more ornate U.S. Polara trim. Your interior window garnish moldings are painted, instead of being chromed, like U.S. pieces. A small detail, but even the windshield washer squirters are in a different position than U.S. cars.

Thanks for the info!

 

[RemCharger]

And the convertible trunk pan. With the spare tire on the right

 

[khryslerkid]

Welcome to the Madness! Great looking 6T4

Heres some useful info.
Moparts on the Web - Main Index

 

[dodgeboy440]

Nice car....I thought RV heads had better cooling?

Exactly! I’ve never heard of anyone refer to
Industrial Mopar engines having a head design that causes overheating!!

That’s Moronic !

All industrial applications had increased cooling capacity because those engines were to be used in … generators …. Water pumps..
Air raid sirens … logging applications… trucks
Airport tow rigs Etc. Get it ?!?!?!?!
But I’ll wager you’re 413 is a period correct
Automobile engine …

Look for a CASTING NUMBER on the head to
Identify! Simple !!

Do Not Listen To The Dork Who Told You
A Certain Head Type Causes Overheating!
There’s Plenty Of Things That Contribute To That You Can Sort Out One By One….

Look For Casting Numbers On the Sides Of The Block Also .

Those Numbers Will Help You Determine You’re Engines Lineage !

Post Photos IF You Can . You Have Access
To Very Knowledgeable Membership Base
That are Willing & Able To Help You !

Try it … you’ll like it !

Mopar2ya!

 

[dodgeboy440]

Did they make a dual 4bbl intake for non MW?

YES !

And I have one available for sale !

 

[R413]

Remove the valve covers and get the casting number off the heads. They are on top of the intake runner.

Yes A413 is a 1965

About 25 things that can make it run hot besides the heads.

I see a mechanical temp gauge, that's good.
How hot is hot?

 

[413Polara]

Remove the valve covers and get the casting number off the heads. They are on top of the intake runner.

Yes A413 is a 1965

About 25 things that can make it run hot besides the heads.

I see a mechanical temp gauge, that's good.
How hot is hot?

The hottest I’ve seen it go is about 220 sitting idling. Once cruising it’s usually riding in the 180 range.

 

[RR Fan Dan]

The hottest I’ve seen it go is about 220 sitting idling. Once cruising it’s usually riding in the 180 range.

What thermostat degree are you running? 220 is not uncommon idling for a long time on a hot day. 180 is very good.

 

[413Polara]

What thermostat degree are you running? 220 is not uncommon idling for a long time on a hot day. 180 is very good.

Thermostat I’m not sure on, haven’t had it out to check. I want to say the previous owner said he installed a 190 in it but I could be wrong. What would you consider concerning for a high temp when idling? Maybe I’m over thinking things.

 

[Roadhog51]

Get a FAN SHROUD before you do another thing!

 

[R413]

180 is great, that means it is working good going down the road. Does this mean your heads are a problem? Nope.

What type of fan do you have? How far from the radiator is it?

What is the idle speed in park? in gear?
Is this 220 idling in gear in traffic, or idling in park?

 

[Dave6T4]

Scratch that. Here’s what’s left of it.

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VD2-H-23 = 1964 Dodge V-8 2-door hardtop
2nd. line # = number of cars built of that body style to date
XN = White painted roof, over Flame Red body
H1R = Red bench seat interior in Polara

 

[Schultz64]

A & A Transmission sells a non max wedge port cross ram. I have one on the 440 in my car. Runs and drives excellent. Never heats up even without a shroud. I have been in bumper to bumper traffic many times this summer and cooling is not an issue.

 

[33 IMP]

The hottest I’ve seen it go is about 220 sitting idling. Once cruising it’s usually riding in the 180 range.

I read a simple analogy once about overheating.
If you overheat at idle, you need more airflow (fan and/or shroud)
If you overheat on the highway, you need more radiator.

But like said above, there probably 25 different causes for overheating.