Rear shoulder belts in a 1970 Charger

[Kern Dog]

I was talking with a fellow FBBO friend @CoronetDarter and the topic of rear seat belts came up. He was looking at modifying the package tray area to integrate some sort of attachment point to secure child safety seats.
It got me thinking....
I never ride in the back so rear seat belts have not occupied many of my thoughts but hey, I thought I'd see what I could learn.
I read that rear shoulder belts were available in the 1968-70 B bodies but I don't recall ever seeing them. I'm assuming that like shoulder portion on the front belts, these did not retract? Looking at this picture from when I replaced the broken rear window after shattering it during a weed-eating chore....

The thin horizontal slot furthest to the edge looks like where the belt may have been attached?
I'm just getting a few ideas on this and willing to consider advice on how to proceed. I'd want retractors for whatever I do. The front belts are from XV Motorsports and they work quite well. I've thought of retrofitting belts from a late model car like a Challenger, Charger or anything really. I'd just need black or dark gray belts and buckles to match the front belts.
Cheers...

 

[pnora]

FSM does not show much.

 

[dadsbee]

Not like such has never been shown here....

 

[furious70]

I have these guy's rear kit in my charger and fury. Welded to the cross member behind the rear seat.
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[Kern Dog]

Thanks Wayne!

Not like such has never been shown here....
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That looks like what Rich was speaking of for his Coronet.

 

[hunt2elk]

I have only seen one B-body that had factory rear shoulder belts. It happened to be a 1969 A12 butterscotch Super Bee. I had pics of it because I was looking to buy it years ago, but ended up passing. Can't find the pics I took, but I'm certain that Darrin aka BigDA12 has some of it.

 

[PlymCrazy]

It's a bit late for my own kids, but definitely something to consider now that the grandkid thing has started.
Good thread

 

[PurpleBeeper]

1. There was a post about 2 weeks ago with a guy that had a set of rear shoulder belts out of the car.
2. In my ragtop, I just built a small piece of metal to attach the car seat “back hook” and bolted it to the cross member behind the back seat. I’m not “sure” if hardtops/coups have that ???

 

[HawkRod]

I added rear should belts to my 70 Road Runner back in 2015. Posts start here: Hawk-Rod: The Restoration

Here are a couple of (not great) pictures after installation: Hawk-Rod: The Restoration

I've had these (and passengers have used them) for 10 years now. They work great (at least to take on and off) and no complaints from back seat passengers. I've never tested them in a crash and don't intend to try...

 

[CoronetDarter]

1. There was a post about 2 weeks ago with a guy that had a set of rear shoulder belts out of the car.
2. In my ragtop, I just built a small piece of metal to attach the car seat “back hook” and bolted it to the cross member behind the back seat. I’m not “sure” if hardtops/coups have that ???

Yes, B Bodies all have that 'X' that supports the package tray. My Dart has one too.
My vision of the restraints is exactly how Wayne installed his. Mopar sells the U-shaped bracket, and I purchased on Ebay a three pack of the plastic flip-up covers that are installed in the late model Challengers.
Talking to @HawkRod, he purchased front shoulder belts from Seat Belt Planet and modified them for the back seat, and naturally they came out looking like an OEM install. Greg and I, being the cheap bastards that we are, are planning on a Pick n Pull recon mission to find some used rear seat belts out of a late model sedan.

 

[dadsbee]

If you go to my 64 thread, I show how I did the quick connect loops and the entire deal... mind your 69 should have rear belts, while the 64 had none. Was very convenient that the 64 uses to quick push pins to hold the package tray. I just used those holes for the attachments.

1964 Dodge 440

 

[CoronetDarter]

Thanks Wayne, your resto posts illustrate how I want to update the Coronet. I plan on using the flip top bezels from the late model Challenger, so I'll have to fab a box for the bracket and weld it to the underside of the package tray.
You have darling granddaughters BTW. Mine are a little older; 7 and 5 years old; and they love driving in the Coronet. I chauffeur them to and from school on Tuesdays but I'm not taking the Coronet until I have the upper restraint tabs installed. I don't want a teacher or a nosy mom pointing out the obvious.